> I get your position: there's no problem and therefore no solution is needed.
Nope, not much of a problem, really. Compare the gun-related numbers to others, like heart disease, drunk driving, obesity, etc. Those are *much* bigger drains on our society as a whole and ourselves individually, much more likely to have an impact on our lives, and infinitely easier to fix ourselves -- especially with a reasonable level of government assistance. Let's act logically rather than emotionally about all this. Let's make a triage of what is most likely to have the greatest positive impact based on an arbitrary unit of effort-funding, then attack them one at a time full force until that problem is reduced to an acceptable number of human deaths and ruined lives per year (and that number *does* exist-- talk to any actuarial scientist). Then we move onto the next major problem, and so on-- all the while maintaining the normal level of concentration on the nominal level of regular crimes and accidents that take place every day. Then, in a few decades, we'll eventually get to violent gun crimes, and we can tackle that problem with everything we've got. I mean a real backing of "this is my mission in life" representatives sparing no idea, throwing emotion out the window in favor of logically-minded potential solutions, funding means-tested ideas only -- the whole works -- just like we do for the infinitely more important issues of heart disease, etc. > What I'm suggesting is that those that favor responsible gun ownership > regulated by laws that provide for suppressing or eliminating > irresponsible gun ownership (and who doesn't) start proposing their > own regulations now. We don't need any more regulations. Just enforce what's already on the books and we're all good to go. Imposing additional regulations doesn't take a single gun out of a single criminal's hand. *It's just a piece of paper that defines boundaries and describes the punishment for going outside those boundaries*. Regulations don't take action, as you see today. What, we're going to enable *another* regulation, but *this* time it's going to spring forth an instant wave of action? Are you serious? Who cares about another regulation? The police certainly don't. Come on, now. > So what do I bring to the table? Change management experience... What the hell do you mean by that? Be explicit, please, because I have no earthly idea what you might be referring to. > and I > can tell you you're going to be very unhappy. You're going to whine > up front, oppose the offered solutions with nothing constructive to > offer yourself, and then rage when change is finally implemented. Kid, don't tell me what I'm going to do. You don't know a thing about me, and you control nothing. > And change will happen. No s*$#? Are you absolutely sure about that, Sparky? Things will change in the future? Well f*$& me blind and call me Charlie! Hoodah thunkit? > So my suggestion is that you use your knowledge to start thinking of > ways regulation, manufacture, use, and design can be partnered to > provide for maximum freedom to responsible users while eliminating > irresponsible use. Again, no. I won't do this at all. I'll just follow the laws in place right now, and go about my business doing exactly what *I* want to do, simply because *I* want to do it. I won't listen to or take action on any of your suggestions because they are based on ignorance, but you see them as enlightened because of your ego. You seem to love the sound of your own voice, and you seem to think everyone else does, too. Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX 7 Developer BlueDragon Alliance Founding Committee Get advanced intensive Master-level training in C# & ASP.NET 2.0 for ColdFusion Developers at ProductivityEnhancement.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Macromedia ColdFusion MX7 Upgrade to MX7 & experience time-saving features, more productivity. http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion?sdid=RVJW Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:233060 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
