I'm not telling you you need to learn his language. Though I don't think it 
would hurt you to try. 

My fundamental point however is this. In all of your examples, who suffers the 
consequences?

>Dana, 
>
>Try this...
>
>I have a neighbor, he seems like a nice guy with a nice family.. but I don't
>know.. because he doesn't speak a word of English
>
>I'd like to tell him he has a nice garden....
>But I can't because he doesn't speak a word of English
>
>I'd like to tell him that the air in his tires is low....
>But I can't because he doesn't speak a word of English
>
>I need to tell him that he needs to keep his dog out of my yard and on a
>leash, his little boy loves that dog, and I'd hate to see it get hurt in the
>road or picked up by animal control
>But I can't because he doesn't speak a word of English...
>
>I saw his daughter at the mall, she was with a boy, that didn't look like
>the kind of boy I'd want my daughter with, if I had one
>But I can't because he doesn't speak a word of English....
>
>He needs to be aware that his HOA dues are going to go way up, he didn't go
>to the meeting
>because he doesn't speak a word of English....
>
>there's a million other things that he should know
>but no one can tell him because he doesn't speak a word of English
>
>and don't tell me it's up to me to learn his language
>-- 
>Scott Stewart
>ColdFusion Developer
> 
>SSTWebworks
>7241 Jillspring Ct.
>Springfield, Va. 22152
>(703) 220-2835
> 
>http://www.sstwebworks.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 10:58 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: English in America in trouble?
>
>Gruss, I have not advocated making Spanish an official language so you are
>completely beside the point. I really don't care much about this either way,
>but when I see people frothing at the mouth about the enormous cost of not
>requiring everyone to speak English, my bullshit detector goes off, that's
>all. Sitting here in the multicultural heart of Nuevo Mexico where we
>routinely translate official notices into Spanish, Navaho and Vietnamese...
>I guess I don't see it. I fail to perceive the chaos. There's probably a
>line item for translators somewhere -- I doubt it amounts to much. 
>
>I do think that if Quebec is going to insist that French be an official
>language of Alberta and British Columbia where there are very few French
>speakers, then English should be an official language of Quebec. But
>language has a totally different meaning there and the society defines
>itself as a mosaic. Does the world stop turning? No. 
>
>Where they have been costs to Canadian biligualism they have primarily been
>to manufacturers of products who had to redesign all their labels to
>accomodate both languages, but this has already happened in the US, de
>facto.
>
>I guess I just don't see why people care. If these immigrants chose to limit
>their options by failing to learn English, the consequences really don't
>affect anyone else except perhaps tangentially. The waitress at the Mexican
>restaurant might have to go get someone else if I have a problem with the
>check. So what? I spent part of the afternoon today doing user support with
>hand gestures. If the ASL instructor I'm talking to does not understand me
>-- I don't speak ASL -- we go to writing or typing the conversation out in
>English. We make it work. This was also my experience when trying to buy
>film or huevos mexicanas in Mexico. If the people actually tried, a
>conversation could be had. If they got hung up on how fractured my sentences
>were, well, I bought lunch elsewhere, pretty much. NPV of attempting to
>communicate - a sale ;)
>
>::shrug:::

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