On 5/17/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sam wrote: > > Don't forget, the goal of conservatism is to educate/help everyone so > > we don't have to support him or her in the long run. It's an > > investment. > > >
> Uh, no. Conservatives want a small federal gov't which means that any > federal program is NOT conservative. Uh, YES. Key word you used is SMALL not non-existent. Liberal - give a man a fish Conservative - teach a man to fish GG - feck him Conservatism is based on the entire community surviving and if you don't help the people of your community you end up feeding them or being a victim of crime by them. > And why couldn't we leave > education up to the state and local levels? It mostly is, but since plenty of Fed money already supports the system you have three choices: 1. pull out all Federal money and the hell with all the schools that depend on it (works great in poor areas) 2. try to fix it so the money generates the highest ROI 3. throw money at a broken system and hope it fixes itself > Just curious but what federal spending isn't "an investment" then? > Why not just tax the hell out of everyone to help with everything? In > fact, let's be REALLY conservative and just have the federal > government control ALL spending? After all, it's an investment, > right? Pfft. You really don't have a clue do you. Black and white, all or nothing. That's the problem living with the labels. You think the way the definition of your chosen label tells you to think and can't see beyond that. You fund the programs that work the best and you help the people that can't help themselves. Eliminate programs that are wasteful, useless and especially the handouts for the able bodied. > Dude, you spend so much time defending "conservatives", but you don't > even understand what they believe. Wow. I wouldn't call Bush a conservative, Giuliani is a fiscal conservative. I don't defend the conservatism label because I'm only half in. Why can't you memorize that? > Are you sure you're not just a personality cultist? Bush one day, > Rudy the next day ... Maybe tomorrow you finally pick someone who > believes as you do and support Ted Kennedy. Yeah, now I'm a retarded liberal. You're boring me, why don't you go play with your label maker? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:234954 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
