** Private ** wrote: > Has anyone else had trouble lately with apews.org blacklisting their ISP/web > hosting provider?
I choose my ISPs more carefully then that. > This little organization is blacklisting the entire > address ranges of large ISPs and hosting providers- Cox, Time Warner, and > Rackspace are all listed in their database, for instance. What that means is > that anyone with an email address originating from a mail server anywhere in > that address space is going to get a 550 relay denied message when they try > to send email to servers that subscribe to the apews.org list. That is the point of subscribing to a blacklist, isn't it? >I just found out that my ISP, Time Warner, was listed, so I did a little > poking around. The web site for apews.org has an FAQ that basically says, if > your ISP is listed, you are screwed, go get a new ISP (and hope that they > don't someday get listed). Their site provides no contact information other > than a note to post to a couple of newsgroups. I posted a complaint message > to one of the groups, but the group is moderated and my message has not > appeared yet. It won't. NANA* is not for complaining, it is for getting technical support to get delisted. The target audience is the abuse officers of ISPs, not end-users. > The site further lists that apews.org has only existed since > last December and only just recently made its list publicly available. What > that means is that this problem is about to get a whole lot bigger. Considering the significant similarity between apews and the former spews I am betting the impact of apews will become as big as the impact of spews. > Personally, I want to stop spam, too, but these kinds of Soviet-style > tactics are way out of bounds. I would go so far as to say they represent an > illegal restraint on trade. If I consult the Amazon book ratings database and choose not to buy a book based on the result, is that an 'illegal restraint on trade'? If I consult the apews database and choose not to accept email from a server based on the result, is that an 'illegal restraint on trade'? > Has anyone else seen this problem? I have seen it a lot with certain ISPs. It was always resolved by switching to a reputable ISP. > Please also forward this email on to anyone you know who might be affected > by this problem. A few lines above this you wrote you wanted to stop spam, and here you are asking us to propagate a chain email. You seem to have a rather flexible definition of spam. > If these fools are not stopped, I predict a severe > degradation in email connectivity in as little as a few weeks. I would hope so, maybe the ISPs that get blacklisted will get a bit more careful about signing "pink contracts" and get a bit more proactive about responding to complaints. Jochem ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Create Web Applications With ColdFusion MX7 & Flex 2. Build powerful, scalable RIAs. Free Trial http://www.adobe.com/products/coldfusion/flex2/?sdid=RVJS Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:236433 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
