Which brings us to what I feel is one of the biggest problems facing the United States today. Judicial activism has reached disgusting levels, with judges making new law from the bench on a regular basis.
Who knows? I like the form of government espoused in the constitution and in the documents created by our founders, however I see very little similarity to that government in our own federal government. We need some damned house cleaning. Hell I can barely manage my household, yet I think I'm smart enough to design a gov't. Haahaa. > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 3:47 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > yeah but when the work will involve doing harm already > done... I dunno. Still, the risk of electing people for life > seems greater. I do think Supreme Court appointees should be > for life as their role is too important to allow politics to > sway it, but that also leaves you no remedy when they allow > politics to do so anyway. > > On 7/9/07, Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I can see supporting either. > > > > I agree I think with supreme court justices being lifetime > appointees, > > but seriously, I don't want career politicians in our > legislature or > > executive. I want people that have been and will be > employees/workers > > in those positions. People that know what it's like out > there for the > > regular people. That buy milk at the store, not have the Secret > > Service pick it up for them. > > > > I have heard the complaint that if we did have single term > limits you > > wouldn't be able to get anything done, and as far as I am concerned > > that isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't think that > that our form > > of gov't was set up to make it easy to create new laws, it was > > organized to make creating laws a long arduous painful > experience, so > > we would avoid having too many laws. > > > > -- > > Timothy J. Heald | NIH-Contractor | iGate Enterprise Business > > Intelligence Branch (EBIB) Division of Enterprise and Custom > > Applications, CIT/NIH/DHHS > > Office: 301.594.5611 | Fax: 301.443.7010 | Email: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 2:18 PM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > > > > > Interesting... Work has us reading John Deming. He > advocates that we > > > either elect people for life or go with one term. > > > > > > On 7/9/07, Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > An excellent argument for term limits if you ask me. > > > > > > > > As far as I am concerned you should get one term at > each level. > > > > No more or less. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Timothy J. Heald | NIH-Contractor | iGate Enterprise Business > > > > Intelligence Branch (EBIB) Division of Enterprise and Custom > > > > Applications, CIT/NIH/DHHS > > > > Office: 301.594.5611 | Fax: 301.443.7010 | Email: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 1:15 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > > > > > > > > > unless there is something in the definition of standing... > > > > > the thing that concerns me about the legislative brance > > > is that they > > > > > face election so often they are vulnerable to despots > who wave a > > > > > flag and accuse other people of lack of patriotism or not > > > supporting > > > > > the troops. > > > > > > > > > > Don't know the answer > > > > > > > > > > On 7/9/07, Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > Absolutely, but not one that the judiciary can > easily rectify, > > > > > > it's really going to take attention from the > > > legislature to make > > > > > > any difference here. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Timothy J. Heald | NIH-Contractor | iGate > Enterprise Business > > > > > > Intelligence Branch (EBIB) Division of Enterprise > and Custom > > > > > > Applications, CIT/NIH/DHHS > > > > > > Office: 301.594.5611 | Fax: 301.443.7010 | Email: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Dana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 4:45 PM > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > seriously, Tim, if you or I were being wiretapped -- > > > > > would we know? > > > > > > > If I apply to work at Sandia Labs tomorrow (which I > > > > > > > wouldn't, but > > > > > > > suppose) and I just don't get the job, would I ever know > > > > > that it was > > > > > > > because someone I have spoken to on the phone said hi > > > to an IRA > > > > > > > member in a pub? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Note to Big Brother: This is speculation mind you, but I > > > > > understand > > > > > > > it's hard to spend any time in Belfast at all before you > > > > > speak to a > > > > > > > member of the IRA, whether you know it or not) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I understand what standing is and legally you are > > > > > absolutely right. > > > > > > > From the point of view of public policy, there's a real > > > > > issue here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/6/07, Heald, Timothy (NIH/CIT) [C] > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't like using intelligence services against US > > > > > > > citizens. I think > > > > > > > > that the legislature needs to get it's act > together once > > > > > > > > GW > > > > > > > is out and > > > > > > > > make sure they patch any holes in the laws about > > > > > > > wiretapping, however, > > > > > > > > if the parties involved cannot prove that they have been > > > > > > > impacted by > > > > > > > > the wire tapping program then they have no > legal grounds > > > > > > > > to > > > > > > > bring a case. > > > > > > > > That's the law. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now we need to find some Americans that have proof that > > > > > the wire > > > > > > > > tapping program was used against them to > reinstate the case. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > > > From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2007 2:55 PM > > > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Bush, the new Teflon Don! :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Freaking BS, man. Bull-shit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/6/07, Vivec <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSN06424000200707 > > > > > > > > > > 06 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Court dismisses lawsuit on spying program > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "CINCINNATI (Reuters) - A U.S. appeals > court ruled on > > > > > > > > > Friday a lawsuit > > > > > > > > > > challenging the domestic spying program created by > > > > > > > > > President George W. > > > > > > > > > > Bush after the September 11 attacks must be > > > dismissed, in > > > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > decision > > > > > > > > > > based on narrow technical grounds. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The appeals court panel ruled by a 2-1 vote > that the > > > > > > > > > > groups and individuals who brought the lawsuit, > > > led by the > > > > > American > > > > > > > > > > Civil Liberties Union, did not have the legal right > > > > > to bring > > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > challenge > > > > > > > > > > in the first place." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| CF 8 â Scorpio beta now available, easily build great internet experiences â Try it now on Labs http://www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs_adobecf8_beta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:237969 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
