Ok, perhaps sloppy language on my part. The paradigms that include
man-made global warming seem to explain the data much better. Happy?
;)

On 8/10/07, Gruss Gott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ian wrote:
> > But the problem is that once it is 100% Confirmed and Proven(R), one is 
> > looking at it historically
>
> EXACTLY!
>
> Dana - how could we possibly prove that "global warming" exists and is
> man-made?  We can't ever predict the weather 1 week from now.
>
> However therein lies the truth.  We CAN model what we THINK will
> happen based on what we know.  90% of those models show that GW exists
> and is caused by CO2.  There are known flaws in the models, however,
> because they also predict that it should be warmer now than what it
> is.
>
> Sam - Bush has actively squelched science - that's obvious.
>
> Specific to GW, there's all kinds of "lensing" going on from both
> sides and, imo, the best report to date is the IPCC or whatever as
> it's biggest critic is ITSELF!
>
> It's pure statistics at this point:
>
> 1.) year-over-year trend?  Yes.
> 2.) Proof of GW? No.
>
> Best guess?  We need to do SOMETHING, but what ...
>
> 

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