ayup. I am not sure that electing a mainstream democrat will fix
anything, either.

On 8/13/07, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Agreed.
>
> I don't know how people allow this stuff to stand.
>
> Right or left, democrat or republican, who really wants to be spied on by a
> government that constantly shows us how it fails, no matter who is in
> charge.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Casey Dougall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2007 8:41 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Nobody has commented on this?
>
> On 8/12/07, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > "If Congress once again allows itself to be cowed by Mr. Bush's
> > fear-mongering, it must accept responsibility for undermining the
> > democratic values that separate this nation from the terrorists that
> > Mr. Bush claims to be fighting.
> >
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/11/opinion/11sat1.html?hp
> >
> > It allows for blanket data-mining of any and all electronic and
> > telephonic communication by anyone, anywhere, whether chatting with a
> > spouse, shopping for sex toys, making a doctor's appointment or
> > confessing to a priest."
> >
> > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/08/10/opinion/main3156641.shtml
> >
> > We might as well give up on this whole debate. It's been going on for
> years anyway. Now they want to give this information to more people, but in
> the end, someone somewhere is spying on you.
>
> When the State becomes God
> http://www.scp-inc.org/publications/journals/J2704/
>
> This is really long but goes into detail as how our privacy has been
> slipping away over the years. The legislation is just icing on the cake to
> make it legal.
>
> Casey
>
>
>
>
> 

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