That bs.

Sam, a great many comedians work blue.  Many of us like it.  I happen to
like extreme comics and shock jocks.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 11:09 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Is this really hate speech?
> 
> It's damage control. She offended a huge portion of viewers and they
> don't want a boycott. If she actually had talent she'd be able to make
> a joke without insulting the bulk of the people paying her wage. Still
> hard to believe she won an award for anything.
> 
> So who called it hate speech?
> 
> 
> On 9/11/07, Jim Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Okay - yeah, I've got the same bug up my ass as usual... but still:
> >
> > Apparently Kathy Griffin won an Emmy for something.  Fine.
> >
> > Now her acceptance speech is being censored during the broadcast
> because she
> > made some comments about Jesus and God.  Specifically:
> >
> > "A lot of people come up here and thank Jesus for this award. I want
> you to
> > know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus. Suck it,
> Jesus.
> > This award is my god now."
> >
> > Tactless, crude, in-your-face - sure.  That does seem to describe
> Kathy
> > Giffin.  However the Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights
> claims
> > that this is "hate speech".  The called it "obscene and blasphemous."
> It's
> > a hugely powerful, hugely privileged majority playing the beset
> minority
> > card... made all the more ridiculous since Griffin is herself
> Catholic.
> >
> > She spoke, they responded - that's the way it works.  However the
> Academy
> > has bowed to the pressure.  They've announced that "Kathy Griffin's
> > offensive remarks will not be part of the E! telecast."  Of course
> there's
> > nothing in her statements that would HAVE to be censored (she has a
> foul
> > mouth but she constrained herself here).
> >
> > One part of me says: "Sure - it's there damn show.  They should do it
> how
> > they like."  At the same time I'm truly struggling to see how this
> works:
> > she's a brash, in-your-face comic.  She's being AWARDED by this
> academy for
> > those very features (the show for which she won is a reality show
> after
> > all).
> >
> > So she's being punished for EXACTLY THE SAME BEHAVIOR that won her
> the award
> > in the first place!
> >
> > I can also see no way in which her comments could be construed as
> "hate
> > speech": she was either speaking about her personal opinion of an
> abstract
> > figure or specifically about a single individual. She either mocked
> an
> > imaginary figurehead or a specific individual - there was nothing
> even
> > approaching comments about a group or class.  In addition she herself
> is a
> > member of the class claiming to have been attacked.
> >
> > I've got no problem with the group criticizing her speech.  I've
> actually
> > got no real problem with the actual censorship - again, it's their
> show.
> >
> > It's completely hypocritical.  They clap her on the back tell her
> she's
> > great then she does what she's always done and they slap her in the
> face for
> > it.  Cowards.
> >
> > Jim Davis
> 
> 

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