F that, I tip service people, like waiters/waitresses, and some limited others, like tattoo artists.
I don't know how some people afford to take it to the lengths they do with mailmen, garbage men, and all that jazz. Go to night school if you're a loser. -----Original Message----- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 2:26 PM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: how much to tip the newspaper delivery dude > -----Original Message----- > From: Erika L. Walker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2007 11:11 AM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: how much to tip the newspaper delivery dude > > You can look at this letter one of two ways. > > A lot of people do thankless jobs and many do it without complaint. I > don't > figure them to be complaining here, merely telling you how it is. I > applaud > ANY attempt at entrepreneurship, no matter how gutsy or ballsy it may > be. > People are out there, trying to do something with their life and not > sitting > on their butt, perhaps cranking out babies and collecting welfare. > Although > I guess if you stretch the imagination long enough, there could be an > argument about THAT being entrepreneurial. Let's be clear here: asking (or "making yourself available") for a tip while it can be seen as pushy is to be expected. As I said, I tend to give holiday gifts to the various service people that deal with me and they know it. It's not blatantly overt but you do notice it: the mailman or garbage man night find a reason that that they need to speak with you or just hang around a little longer. That's fine. If you're not around to get a gift you definitely won't. For a paper guy (at that time we paid for the paper annually with credit and never saw the delivery man) might include a "happy holidays" card in the paper or even a "How am I doing?" card with a return envelop ("if you have any questions or concerns please feel free to send them"). Now this guy is actually suggesting that his job is somehow a negative sum game. He lists all his costs, even saying that he sometimes has to actually fix his own car. He reminds us that he's completely infallible (he delivers ALL of the papers), that any complaints are fiscally and personally damaging to him and then embodies his work as essentially supernatural. The letter reads as if he's unpaid indentured labor that requires the kindness of strangers to survive the winter. That his expenses somehow outstrip his income. Now I know that a lot of that is language (and probably intelligence in general) but still. To be short I don't think he's ballsy for asking. I think he's ballsy for clearly stating that he's made an awful career choice and trying to guilt me into funding it. All that said he DID get a gift as well that year. We don't give money directly - I don't like to - but it's always something close, a gift certificate or something like that. I think that year we gave away gift tickets to the local movie theater. Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Check out the new features and enhancements in the latest product release - download the "What's New PDF" now http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/coldfusion/cf8_beta_whatsnew_052907.pdf Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:245732 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
