> -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Ihrig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2007 4:06 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: Reasons for using Exchange Integration > > is it any thing like cf?
No. (This must be prefaced with the fact that this is way WE'RE using it... I'm not sure if it could be made better. We're doing full J2EE application development using the IBM IDE.) >From my perspective everything that's simple in CF is a chore in WebSphere. It (like all IBM software that I've worked with) is cumbersome, obtuse and amazingly complex. At a blush most of the concepts are transferable. And understanding of HTTP won't ever go to waste. But the tool just avalanches over everything. > these guys want to send me to school for 2 weeks "when" they bring me > on. > all internal apps. Take any training you can get. Take it! What will you be using? We're stuck on WebSphere 5.1 for the forseeable future which is pretty strongly tied to the development environment, WSAD (based on Eclipse 2.x). The newer version uses "RAD 6" as an IDE (based on Eclipse 3.x) and is much better. In general a good foundation with Eclipse is tremendously helpful. > but is code code? form, ied/crud The code is Java. Java, J2EE, JSP, etc - Java, Java, Java. But for me a huge part of things is figuring out the "mode" of development - the tool does SO much for you but doesn't explain a thing. I think a HUGE part of this will be how well your new team has documented things. I've been on three project teams in the past year. One was a very small project - it only took me about a day to get a working local environment. The other was HUGE but had decent documentation and nice diagnostic tools - although I still didn't "know" the app I got it working within a few hours with the documentation. Now this last one.... It's pretty damn simple web service and test app. Two services actually: one queries a DB based on XML input, the other returns a document from a vendor package based on a key. We've been working on this one for over a week and it still doesn't work on my system. I keep hearing "mine has been set up for years and don't remember all the settings" or "I think it's just your machine". Totally ridiculous. Of course all of this stuff COULD be in source control (we use StarTeam) but it's not and it's a hellish, awful system. It shouldn't take a week to get a new developer's local station built! Of course with CF development you don't see this... CF abstracts SO much of this stuff, collects settings and so forth. I'm not enjoying myself. Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Download the latest ColdFusion 8 utilities including Report Builder, plug-ins for Eclipse and Dreamweaver updates. http;//www.adobe.com/cfusion/entitlement/index.cfm?e=labs%5adobecf8%5Fbeta Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:247243 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
