it makes the administration look stupid, but due to its faith-based
foreign policy in the past not due to any partisan spin on the
intelligence agencies' part ';) Seriously Robert, doesn't it make your
head spin trying to keep up with the cant of the day? This
intelligence estimate was made public because people in the
intelligence community were willing to go to jail for making it public
if the white house did not. They saved the nation a lot of unnecessary
military deaths. It boggles the mind that  president who has made a
career out of dissimulation and partisan politics even yet has
intelligent people believing him when he calls the facts a partisan
attack!

On Dec 9, 2007 6:36 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You have it backwards. Bush started from the analysis in the 2005 NIE, which
> said nothing about Iran shutting down the weapons project. He is clearly
> skeptical of the new NIE, and rightly so when its analysis on Iran is 180
> degrees from the conclusions the CIA drew in 2005.
>
> As for why the NIE was released, you more or less said it, it was a
> political hit job, designed to influence policy and make the Administration
> look bad. As we have learned in recent history, on big intelligence
> questions, the CIA is totally wrong as often as it is right. So today most
> people assume that Iran does not currently have a weapons program, but that
> could be a completely false assumption. After all, they had a secret nuclear
> weapons program for twenty years, didn't they?
>
> On Dec 9, 2007 1:39 PM, Dana wrote:
>
> > I think the key point is that Bush started from a conclusion. The
> > analysis was supposed to support that conclusion. But ::whoops:: the
> > analysts went with the facts instead. Give those people a medal I say
> > ;)
> >
> > The most interesting question in all this imho is why, given that the
> > estimate makes the president look like an idiot, it was released
> > anyway. Research that a bit, just to have your faith in human nature
> > restored ;)
> >
>
>
> 

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