On 12/17/07, Dinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> CF is rapid out of the box, baby!  Haha!  For sure they didn't mean PHP
> was as rapid out of the box as CF- no way in hell.
>
> Hay Zaph- You like the Ruby -- You playing "vanilla", or RoR?

I do both, I've moved a lot of system maintenance type stuff over to
ruby scripts.  I rewrote my CF code that did my crystal reports
exporting and noticed a lot more reliability.  As for RoR, today I was
working on a polymorphic nested resource and the interface between the
three models and was amazed at how easy it was to do it with RoR.  I
also got finished writing a simple CMS in RoR.  The coolest things
about it are that it emulates all the old .cfm urls so that I can map
www.mysite.com/general/about_us.cfm to any page on my CMS.  The other
cool thing is that I've coded it so that Ruby code can be embedded in
the user pages.  I've got it set up where the user can "require" a
predefined function and then use that functions return data anywhere
in their page.  I've patted myself on the back several times for that
one :)


>
> Howz that error reporting?  In my limited experience, the error reporting
> is really where CF whips PHP (and many OS type whatnots)- If ruby has
> good error reporting, I'm more interested.  Not that I'm less, either way.
>
The error reporting is great as far as I'm concerned, it's a very
detailed stack trace.  If you use netbeans or textmate, the stack
trace will all be hyperlinks directly to the error or any of the lines
leading up to that error point in the source code or any rails class.
Very slick.  Also, the debugger looks great, but I haven't used it
yet.  I mostly use the 'irb' or interactive ruby.  This is probably
one of the most productive things about the platform.  If you've got a
model you've already created in your application, you have compete
access to it in your irb session.  It's a quick way to populate data
such as

p=Post.create(:title=>"my blog post", :body=>"this is a test post")
c=p.comments.build(:body=>"this is a comment")
p.save

This will create a blog post with it's associated comment.  I'd love
for cf to have something analogous to this.



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