> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 8:06 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Ron Paul quotes Sinclair Lewis, 'When fascism comes to
> this country it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a cross'...
> 
> On Dec 18, 2007 11:43 AM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > this would bother me should huckabee become the president.
> 
> Dude, it's ridiculous.  Whatever happened to separation of church and
> state?
> 
> Seems like Bush2 opened the floodgates- it's sickening to see so much
> fuss about religion.  More sickening to know how many people actually
> vote based on religion...

I know this may sound odd coming from me, but as things stand voting for
religious reasons is probably better than the alternatives.

With people voting (I feel ignorantly) along pure party lines, or for the
attractive candidate or for the "cool" candidate or whatever... I mean if
you're NOT going to vote based on an education of the issues then at the
very least voting for religious reason illuminates things a bit.

At the very least when you're dealing with a religiously-driven person you
know what you have.

> Eh.  Whatever.  It's [the religion focus] is shameful, if you ask me.

I wouldn't call it "shameful" if it's sincere.  If it's a ploy to collect
votes, then definitely yes.

Sincere belief can be very good in a leader (many of our great leaders were
devout) but it can also be very bad - as when a leader loses respect for
other positions. 

Religion, like everything else, is best in moderation.  ;^)

> I keep thinking "Poor Jim" he's gotta be pulling his hair out watching
> all
> this crap.  I'm close-- I'm down with whatever, ya know, but-- come on!
> Religion has no place in government.  None, whatsoever.

I agree completely (big, surprise huh?) but it does have a place in those
people that practice government.  The best of them have a profound respect
for the principles on which this country was founded on and in turn a
profound respect for the belief (or lack of belief) of others.

Their beliefs inform their positions without dictating them.

I don't think I have to point examples of the less desirable side of
things... ;^)


Jim Davis


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