On Dec 26, 2007 2:38 PM, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Dec 26, 2007 2:22 PM, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Folks are so polarized on this issue here in the US that it's
> impossible to have a reasoned debate about it. The US media just
> reinforces the insular mindset - you have to look further afield to
> see the bigger, more realistic picture. Sam's comment about not having
> seen / heard any of the anti-American sentiment from Iraqis is a prime
> example of this.

As I've shown the plans for the 9/11 attack started in the 1996. Bush
was only in office for less then 8 months.


> You comment on terrorists being trained in Afghanistan - don't forget
> a lot of them were trained by Americans directly or, indirectly, by
> American money because it suited America to use Bin Laden and his
> guerrillas to help oust Russia from Afghanistan. That this came back
> to bite America ought to have be easily predictable (and many
> Europeans saw it coming), especially with Bush's foreign policy
> involving so much sword-rattling and so little actual politics.

That's BS straight out of Charlie Wilson's War propaganda.
Read Identifying Misinformation
http://usinfo.state.gov/media/Archive/2005/Jan/24-318760.html

Also http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,98115,00.html
Those who contend that bin Laden received U.S. funds usually make the
following argument: America financed the Afghan rebels, bin Laden was
among the rebels, therefore, in one way or another, America gave money
to bin Laden.

This ignores a key fact: There were two entirely separate rebellions
against the Soviets, united only by a common communist enemy. One was
financed by Saudi Arabia and the Gulf states and was composed of
Islamic extremists who migrated from across the Muslim world. They
called themselves "Arab Afghans (search)." Bin Laden was among them.
When the Saudis agreed to match U.S. contributions dollar-for-dollar,
the sheikhs insisted that their funds go exclusively to the "Arab
Afghans," possibly including bin Laden. Meanwhile, U.S. funds went
exclusively to the other rebellion, which was composed of native
Afghans. Mr. Bearden told me: "I challenge anyone to give any proof
that we gave one dollar to any Arab Afghans, let alone bin Laden."


> History will be the judge of Bush.

And you're not going to like it :)

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