ah it was hiding as quoted text. Looking now.

On 2/6/08, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am not sure how that is superficial? But I think it's not a bad
> proposal for overnight. Its main flaw is it does not set the placement
> of the tax brackets imho. It does relieve the current inequity in
> payroll taxes. I don't think it changes the top tax rate much, but
> removing bogus deductions and simplifying the code should go a long
> way to making up any costs. An alternative minimum tax on corporations
> would probably be revenue positive without being counterproductive.
>
> I don't think anyone currently pays 5% but if you remove the payroll
> tax for the lower brackets people would probably be happy to pay it as
> they would come out ahead.
>
> If you think there's a problem with that let's hear what it is.
>
> On 2/6/08, Cameron Childress <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Summary: Increase tax on the rich, decrease tax on the poor.
> > Predictable I think.  Let's get a little less superficial and find out
> > how that would work....
> >
> > Dana wrote:
> > > But, here's a thought for you. Consider a household to be like a
> > > business. Define what can be counted as a cost of doing business.
> > > Anything above that is adjusted gross income. Tax that on a
> > > progressive scale from oh 5% to 50%.
> > >
> > > Remove the income cap on social security payments.  Exempt the bottom
> > > 25th income percentile.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > So I personally know someone who doesn't work because if they did, the
> > combined income of this person and their spouse would raise their income
> > level to a point where they would be taxed more and receive less
> > subsidies from the government.  If their subsidies went up (as you
> > suggest) and the taxes above that line also went up, I know they would
> > NEVER work.  Do you think this would encourage more of that behavior?
> > If not - why not?
> >
> > > Do away with the alternative minimum tax for individuals and institute
> > > it for corporations.
> > >
> >
> > Which will just be passed through to consumers.  If you think it will
> > not be, please let me know how you as a CEO would accomplish this feat
> > of magic.
> >
> > > That's the best I can come up with after a 12-hour shift but it will
> > > do for a start. And I don't expect you to like it. You claim to want
> > > simplicity but I am pretty sure you really mean you want lower taxes
> > > for yourself.
> > >
> >
> > Oh I do want lower taxes for myself.  I also want lower taxes for you,
> > and for everyone.  What I want is to reduce the total amount of money
> > required to run the Federal government.  Your solutions do nothing
> > towards that.  They just shift the tax burden to a different group of
> > people.
> >
> > And I have no idea what shifts you work, but if you'd like me to start
> > tracking them for the list I can.
> >
> > -Cameron
> >
> > 

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