1. I carry weapons in a war zone when I am there as a LEGAL combatant.
Not some 14 year old kid, with no uniform, fighting against an ally
of his supposed country (Canada right?). So will/should he be tried for
treason in Canadian courts, especially seeing that Canadian soldiers are
fighting and dying in Afghanistan? Another point to make, since he is
from an involved third party country, and continues to claim his
Canadian citizenship, he certainly cannot be granted Geneva convention
rights. He was in civilian clothes and not part of any nations
military. Should we have just shot him down as a saboteur and been done
with it?
2. It wasn't a rock, it was a hand grenade.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omar_Khadr
3. Do citizens of countries that aren't involved in the conflict have
the right or ability to carry weapons in the area of conflict in your
eyes? International law say they don't, I'm wondering what you think.
4. If he is a Canadian citizen wtf was he doing there?
5. He hasn't been denied medical and psychological care, he's been
denied outside care, there is a difference you know.
Honestly, the simple fact that you can compare our treatment of
prisoners with theirs shows just how little thought you've given this,
or how little understanding you have of our policies in this matter.
Dana wrote:
> wow. You carry weapons don't you? People do that quite a bit in war zones?
>
> I am sorry, but I can't get past the notion that here is a Canadian
> citizen who has been held incommunicado for five years. And he's what,
> 18? Now? If he did throw the rock, perhaps he should have been treated
> as a child soldier. A quick google shows that the solder died (my
> mistake) but also that the kid was injured, says he was tortured, and
> has been denied medical care or psychiatric evaluation.
>
> http://www.bmj.com/cgi/content/full/329/7474/1066-a?etoc
>
> I submit that this kid is a "terrorist" because they want to pressure
> his family. He's not high-value. His family is.
>
> http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/08/AR2005060802358_pf.html
>
> On Sun, Mar 2, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> He was caught throwing the rock, after which he admitted to carrying
>> weapons and killing Americans.
>>
>> Not the same thing Dana, tell the rest of the story.
>>
>> Dana wrote:
>>> There is a Canadian teenager who has been in Guantanamo for six years
>>> for throwing a rock at a soldier in Afghanistan. I don't condone
>>> throwing rocks at soldiers, but that seems little disproportionate,
>>> esp since the soldier was not injured. I worry about a system that
>>> labels children who think they are defending their village as
>>> terrorists. Turns out his *father* is a key bad guy. Ah. We have
>>> actually kidnapped a child to pressure a parent. That's better,
>>> right??
>>>
>>> Also, there are a multitude of stories about waiters being detained
>>> because they served lunch to an al-Qaeda fighter, taxi drivers being
>>> tortured to death at Bagram, and lawyers being detained for months in
>>> error. If even one of these stories is true, that is a problem.
>>>
>>> You're trusting the government again.
>>>
>>> On 2/29/08, Bruce Sorge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>> Again the only people that I see whose civil liberties are being
>>>> violated are the ones who are doing something wrong, and at that point
>>>> you forfeit these liberties. I believe that the intent of this whole
>>>> thing is to speed up the investigative process and not mire it up
>>>> waiting for some judge or grand jury issue a subpoena. And let's not
>>>> forget that there are leaks all throughout the government, so again if
>>>> you run it through legal channels, you risk the perpetrators being
>>>> notified.
>>>>
>>>> Dana wrote:
>>>>> I don't know the book, but answers like this scare the hell out of
>>>>> *me*... why is it that people who are in favor of de-funding the
>>>>> government also favor turning our civil liberties over to its tender
>>>>> mercies
>>>
>>
>
>
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