Maybe you're hard core, but that would be a sucky climb.  I know the elevation gain is 
sea level-10,000 feet in 35 miles.  That would be if you went straight.  If you bike, 
you won't be going straight.  I think there were something like 30-40 switchbacks.  I 
would much rather take a bus up there and fly down on the bike.

I think Hammerheads are less aggressive, travel in schools which makes me think that 
they hunt cooperatively, and have the smaller and poorly placed mouth for biting 
people.  Some whackos swim with the hammerheads and will scam a ride from their snout. 
 No thank you.  I'll stick with following a sea turtle.  That's more my speed!

Michael Corrigan
Programmer
Endora Digital Solutions
1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
Lombard, IL 60148
630-627-5055 ext.-136
630/627-5255 Fax
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: BethF 
  To: CF-Community 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Speaking of Hawaii...


  I gather hammerheads are pretty harmless to humans.  Small mouths or some
  such.  Would prefer really not to see sharks from the kayak as the last time
  I saw one in my yummy yellow craft I freaked out and almost lost my fishing
  pole.  I have never seen a sea turtle but would love to!! Seal must have
  some sort of sexual identity issue!!  LOL!

  I was actually thinking the climb UP the volcano would be the challenge and
  ride down the reward, but maybe its the other way around.

  --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
  Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
  Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
  Anchorage, Alaska



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Speaking of Hawaii...


  > I did not bike down Haleakala, but I know people who did and said it was
  AWESOME!!!  Very fast and VERY dangerous because as you're hauling ass down
  this narrow and windy mountain road, traffic is still moving along.  I think
  most groups that you go up with have a pacesetter that you can't go past.
  But if you go on your own then you're gold.
  >
  > I did my share of kayaking but never got to see a shark.  plenty of sea
  turtles and a few dolphins and one seal.  he was over on Maui and hung out
  around Molokini and had a reputation of "violating" snorkelers and scuba
  divers.  No one ever got hurt, but it can't be an enjoyable experience to
  get molested by a seal.  I know a few marines who flew out of Kaneohe Bay
  Marine Corps base in helicopters and flew low over the bay and they would
  see the schools of hammerheads swimming below.  Not a comforting sight
  considering that they were being dropped into that water in a few minutes.
  >
  > Michael Corrigan
  > Programmer
  > Endora Digital Solutions
  > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
  > Lombard, IL 60148
  > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
  > 630/627-5255 Fax
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: BethF
  >   To: CF-Community
  >   Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:20 PM
  >   Subject: Re: Speaking of Hawaii...
  >
  >
  >   I want to mountain bike that volcano and kayak with sharks!
  >
  >   --Beth, Pseudo usenet cop
  >   Merlin MTB, BikeE AT, RANS gliss, Trek R200, Kickbike
  >   Owned by Kavik (Samoyed Boy) and Toklat (Keeshond Boy)
  >   Anchorage, Alaska
  >
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >   To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  >   Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 1:12 PM
  >   Subject: Re: Speaking of Hawaii...
  >
  >
  >   > My pleasure ;-)
  >   >
  >   > Seriously though, don't let this freak you out.  When I was there,
  there
  >   were maybe two - three per year on average.  It doesn't happen nearly as
  >   often as you think it would.  Also, the first shark fatality in 30 years
  >   occurred there in 98 so it's not bad.  Most of the tigers are out on the
  >   northern side of Kauai where it's almost impossible to get to, and on
  the
  >   east side of Maui.  Again, not likely you'll be there swimming.
  Hammerheads
  >   school in Kaneohe Bay on Oah'u but not a popular beach place and they
  tend
  >   to avoid people.  I never heard of a Hammerhead attack.  Actually, the
  >   University of Hawaii is doing some interesting research on skin cancer
  using
  >   hammerheads.  I guess hammerheads are shallow water swimmers and don't
  get
  >   skin cancer.  Scientists are trying to figure out why and
  >   > maybe find a cure.
  >   >
  >   > I guess to keep in in perspective, there were more hiking fatalities
  and
  >   injuries each year than shark attacks.  Wait, now you won't go
  >   hiking...ignore that part...go hiking it's the best place to do it!!!
  >   >
  >   > Michael Corrigan
  >   > Programmer
  >   > Endora Digital Solutions
  >   > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
  >   > Lombard, IL 60148
  >   > 630-627-5055 ext.-136
  >   > 630/627-5255 Fax
  >   >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   >   From: LANCASTER, STEVEN M. (JSC-OL) (BAR)
  >   >   To: CF-Community
  >   >   Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 4:02 PM
  >   >   Subject: RE: Speaking of Hawaii...
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   Thanks! I appreciate it!!
  >   >
  >   >   Steven Lancaster
  >   >   Barrios Technology
  >   >   NASA/JSC
  >   >   281-244-2444 (voice)
  >   >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   -----Original Message-----
  >   >   From: Michael Corrigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  >   >   Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2002 3:58 PM
  >   >   To: CF-Community
  >   >   Subject: Speaking of Hawaii...
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >   Steven,
  >   >
  >   >
  >
  http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/hon/news/stories/news-132526320020325-190306
  >   >   html
  >   >
  >   >   Michael Corrigan
  >   >   Programmer
  >   >   Endora Digital Solutions
  >   >   1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200
  >   >   Lombard, IL 60148
  >   >   630-627-5055 ext.-136
  >   >   630/627-5255 Fax
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >
  > 
  
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