> Sam wrote: > Obama: Katie, as you've asked me three different times, and I have said > repeatedly that there is no doubt that our troops helped to reduce violence. > There's no doubt.
The odd thing about the "controversy" is that nobody, including Obama, has ever said that increasing troop levels wouldn't bring down violence. Shinseki got fired for suggesting such a thing and Powell, as well as most of the senior military leadership, quit because Bush and Rummy said more troops WEREN'T needed to bring down violence. The question is, did the surge "work", if we define "work" progressing US strategic objectives? As Robert has pointed out for us so very many times, neither he nor any Iraq deployment supporter, can tell you what those objectives are. If you don't have objectives, and you're not measuring them with anything, then you can't say whether anything has worked. If you want to define "worked" as bringing down troop level, the surge worked - just like Shinseki was fired for saying. As usual, In grand Bush style, he waits until there's not one logical thread of doubt left that his 1st idea is totally fucking moronic. Then he does the right thing. Like everyone told him too. If, on the other hand, we want to define "worked" as getting our troops home, then it's failed. Success through solid management is, apparently, a very difficult task for neo-cons to grasp. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:264567 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
