On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 11:09 PM, Sam wrote: > On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 4:59 PM, denstar wrote: > >> That's illogical. We don't need "easing" we need ASAP. > > There is no ASAP unless you want to eliminate the food supply.
Oh, we're pretty smart and capable, I'm sure we could figure out something. Bio-Diesel and trains, man, just off the top of my head. There's some algae that's pretty interesting, neh? >> Why dedicate more resources, and destroy more of the environment, for >> not much gain? >> >> I'd *far* rather have that effort put into the "new" the tech(s). > > When something shows promise yes but right now we have nothing. Dude, I just mentioned algae! Those little bastards are doing all kinds of crap for us. > So you want us just to stop using oil? 'Cept for plastics and crap, fuck yeah! Why burn the shit? We *can* do better. >> http://www.ppaction.org/campaign/frcp08_adv1?qp_source=frcp08pporg > I don't know what that is. It's like a bumper sticker. > I need real info not a flier. I'm pretty sure you've got real info at your fingertips, if not already in your noggin. You don't seem to hold PP in high regard. Heh, I said PP. >>> Why do you want to fund abortion education but not abstinence? I am >>> pro choice but am against Planned Parenthood. They're like peta. >> >> They are not at all like PETA. That's pretty lame, dude, the PP >> clinics help a lot of people. Maybe you've never lived on the street? > > I didn't say they don't help. I think they push abortions too hard and > are too aggressive. Ah, I see, last time you were there they gave you some advice or something? Where do you get this stuff? Defending the right, and advocating use, are not the same. >> They use the pronged approach, not "abortion education". These are >> not baby-killers, you ass. :-) > > I read they encourage sex and then charge for the quick fix. Bullshit. What was that comment about PBS? .... > Sorry, I was mocking you. Quite alright! >>> Adoptions are way up and abortions are way down. That has a good sound to >>> it. >> >> Maybe. Statistics are the devil's play thing. > > That's it? Your only thought is stats are wrong? I was mocking you, I'm sorry. >> I don't think any lack of freedom is a "good thing". But you want a >> nanny state, so we're a little different. > > Not sure how you figured that. Some people just want 12 year olds to > put a condom on a cuke, others want to explain about the peer pressure > and it's effect. Maybe that is a nanny, you know to have the options > talk. That was a little confusing, but I get it. And I agree, 100%, with that idea, but not the nanny-state stuff you want. > It's pretty successful and it cost a bundle. Not a conservative move > but a reach out accross the isle move. Just goes to show the dems > don't want to work together. It takes two to not tango. How did that Clinton guy you dislike so much do it? >> SS-- one man's solution is another man's problem-- anyways, tho: What, >> is he too much of a pussy to get the Dems to do what he needs? > > He spent years on it and without a majority it's out of his hands. In general, I agree that both parties suck, but somehow Clinton did stuff like get Assault guns banned, right? WTF? Skillz. >> Clinton got the Repubs to do what he wanted, didn't he? > > I think you have that backwards. Blame the media. >>> Don't believe everything you see on PBS. >> >> Oh, yeah, thanks. That thought hadn't crossed my mind. >> >> Sheesh dude, this ain't rocket science. > > We;ve debated this before and I don't mind doing it again. > Tell me which system is better? I hear Cuba has the best medical in the world > :) Read the book! -er, I mean, watch the show! It was pretty damn interesting, whatever side of the isle you're on. None were perfect, but most were better than ours, in many ways. And way cheaper. We're a monster, neh? Freaking oodles of money, still. And way in debt. Strange. Big eye syndrome-- we'd be fine if we'd pace ourselves. >>> That's what the war was for. Investing in our future survival. >> >> Remind me not to let you handle my investments. > > Don't let me handle your investments. Thanks, I'd forgotten already. >>> I don't trust Google either. >> >> But you trust the Government, which is even better! > > It's not that I trust the government, it's that you exaggerate what's > going on here and say it's hundreds of times worse than anything else. > This admin is being watched and investigated nonstop. It's the ones > you're not watching that are doing the evil. I do like that logic, but I don't think I'm exaggerating what's going down. Random people getting my phone records? That was the link I posted last time, and it was from the FBI. Some crazy shit went down because of that terrorist attack(s), Sam. And some bad people used it to further badness. Not the Michael Jackson kind of bad, either. > If he wasn't a truther I'd look into him. But I write him off as insane. Truther? What's that? He seems pretty savvy to me, and calls it like he sees it... some of us don't look through your rosey glasses, Sam. Perhaps that is the crazy part. >> Oh, I'm thinking the same way Clinton did (as in, not really) at least >> we'll be prosperous and whatnot again, with a party that thinks (just >> a tiny bit more) than "the other one" at the helm. > > He left us with a dotcom bubble and a recession. Sure, blame him for that! I thought you didn't like it when I blame Bush, what gives? > You should run. You qualify by your standards. So does half the population. Heh. Bush *has* lowered the bar quite a bit, neh? (thanks Letterman!) > I think the department of ed is the most corrupt union of all and it > should be destroyed and all the states should start over. Fine, but we can't do it all, and you've made some other choices, ya know? Guess we could always just print more money tho... >> You saying the Republican party supports gay marriage? Or "alternate >> lifestyles"? > > I'm guessing plenty of republicans are gay, just still in the closet :) > Palin says she fully supports civil unions with all the rights of > married couples. Heh. Was forced to, not out of some altruistic value of other's lifestyles. I'd rather have the bloke who "gets it". Hip, quick, smart. Young. With young kids. >> I think they like to legislate lifestyle. And morality. While not >> being any better than the rest of us. > > I thing they don't want tax dollars encouraging gay sex amongst young teens. FUCK YEAH! Sam, that was wicked dope. You're quite fine, you know that? They say laughs make us live longer, but I don't know where they got that data. > Me personally yes. I was hit hard by the dotcom bubble. That, is pretty sad. You *do* do computer type stuff, right? What a ride, though! Not impossible to predict tho, like the housing stuff. :-/ Wish I'd bought a bunch of apple and oracle and whatnot, right after. I knew they were undervalued. Seems like cheating tho, the stock market... People who play The Game made a killing, I'm sure. (^---Heh! I mean those that got off in time, of course!) > Do you think you were spied on? The point, Sam, is that I don't know that I wasn't, nor do I have even the assurance that I probably wasn't. They don't even know who all they gave the phone records too, man. There's a ton of stuff like that. Mostly because of what happened, on this day, a few years ago. We still haven't recovered. That's crazy, we're tougher than this. >>> When was your travel restricted? >> >> About a year ago, but many times since DUM DUM DUM "NINE ELEVEN" >> (one attack, and we're suddenly pussified-- weak. weak. weak.) > > Sorry, were you on the terrorist watch list? That would suck but even > before 9/11 I was pulle daside often for having wires in my bags. I used to fly a lot, and I loved it. It has been perverted, and for not much "real" safety. Heh, and you can bet, if you've got SSS at the top of your pass, your getting searched. All it takes is going one way, you know. Terrorists couldn't figure that out, right? But those one way passengers... you just can't trust them, can you? We won't even get into the traffic stop while crossing counties, which I bitched about at the time. As I told the trooper, who asked if I'd rather be free or safe-- I choose freedom. Yes, even if people I love could die. It's part of life. >> Oh, we "won" the war on terror. Sure. "They" didn't win. Nope. >> We're just "safer" now, a fair trade for freedom. > > The war's not over but some people like to think it never existed. I'm > so glad the neo-cons knew better and stepped up to the plate. They solved teh problem, alright! Just a different problem. A good solve (hindsight) is using all that good will we had, and the motivation the American people had, to get off Oil. Damn that Obama has good ideas. >> You're making it so. We're screwed, if people don't wake up and get a clue. > > You think the right is communist? You need to look into that. You can put lipstick... doh! No, things are swell here in constitution-land. Heh, remember the constitution? >> http://www.eff.org/issues/privacy (in case clicking on the link on the >> home page was too much effort) > > Wow, they have such an amazing grasp of the obvious. :) But are they as cool as planned parenthood in your book? -- He who has loved and who betrays love does harm not only to the image of the past, but to the past itself. 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