http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_PATRIOT_Act#Reauthorizations http://writ.news.findlaw.com/ramasastry/20030217.html
oh and more on privacy in the US; http://www.eff.org/cases/warshak-v-usa http://www.fas.org/irp/congress/2003_cr/h112203.html On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 1:04 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When was it enacted? I can't seem to find that information. > > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 2:55 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> and you really think Patriot II has made things *better*? >> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:38 PM, Michael Dinowitz >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Um, until I actually read the paper I'm not going to depend on an >> abstract >> > alone. Are they comparing current laws vs. proposed ones? Are they >> talking >> > about ecommerce (as they specifically referenced a bill dealing with >> > commercial practices)? What about the sentence about moving the US MORE >> > towards current EU practices, not less. Methodology is important in these >> > and test criteria need to be examined. Trust me on this. I had to deal >> with >> > papers like this all the time and for each you read, there's one refuting >> it >> > based on study criteria. >> > >> > Oh, and the paper is from 2003 (accepted online in 2004). >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > >> >> um, no. It is not. Sorry. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V8G-4BRB7KS-1&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=450fc63c2125b9cf39128566a8e65272 >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Michael Dinowitz >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > None of the above is not allowed on this one. Someone will take >> control >> >> and >> >> > do you want it to be Saudi Arabia? As for the NSA, they'll be doing it >> no >> >> > matter who runs it. >> >> > >> >> > Bottom line is, no matter what we think about the US and its policy on >> >> > privacy, it's still a quantum leap above most of the rest of the >> world. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > BTW, the Saudi Arabia crack above was not a joke. The OIC's block in >> the >> >> UN >> >> > basically allows for a religious law to have a solid say in affairs >> and >> >> if >> >> > the control of the Internet is set to a committee, then they will be >> in >> >> > control in no time (see the so called UN human rights council). >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Sep 14, 2008 at 9:41 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> It's a better idea to run every thing through NSA filters? Sorry if I >> >> >> am looking for "none of the above" on this ballot.... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:269231 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
