You are correct I am speaking of income taxes, and I will endeavor to be more specific in the future.
BTW, I'm only speaking of federal programs. I'm not against state and local level programs of this nature. Judah McAuley wrote: > On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 3:48 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> So you think the founding fathers supported welfare, unemployment, and >> other social programs? These men that didn't support ANY level of >> taxation on wages? You do realize that we didn't have taxes for almost >> 150 years right? That taxes were a major cause of the revolution right? >> >> That they were sick of government being involved in their businesses and >> homes. >> > > Out of curiosity, do you think this is actually true? Or is this just > tossing crap out there to see who will believe it? No taxes for almost > 150 years? How do you think the Federal Government ran? On Magic > Revolutionary Fairy Dust? > >>From the very beginning, the Federal government established a variety > of excise taxes (import/export) and direct taxes on houses, land, > slaves, etc. There were periods of time when there were no direct > taxes, but excise taxes of various sorts were always in place. Those > taxes, by the by, were the type of taxes that were being imposed by > England. The colonists didn't object to concept of taxation (it is > written into the Constitution you know), they objected to taxation > without representation. You may have heard that line somewhere before. > > You may be talking about the lack of an income tax. The income tax was > not implemented until 1861, this is true. It is also true that a good > portion of the populace prior to that time didn't tend to work from > wages. Excise and property taxes made a lot more sense when the middle > class (generally wage earners) were a tiny percentage of the > population. > > As for the founding fathers supporting unemployment and welfare, the > colonies most certainly had programs of that nature. They were > generally taken care of my local governments are called "outdoor > relief". Basically destitute people were adopted by a family and the > government paid the family on a case-by-case basis to take care of > them. Later on with increasing urban density you saw the creation of > Poor Houses for such matters. But that was a fair bit on. > > Judah > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:273680 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
