Chris Matthews is far from right wing and he made cracks during the whole campaign about it.
Michael Corrigan Programmer Endora Digital Solutions 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 Lombard, IL 60148 630-627-5055 ext.-136 630/627-5255 Fax ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry C. Lyons To: CF-Community Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:36 PM Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy Remember Senator Al Gore of Tennessee, was the chief sponsor in the Senate of the enabling legislation that turned the NSFnet into the Internet. He did not lie. However his words were twisted by many of the right wing media. Vince Cerf attempted to set the record straight, but as typical of those trying to remove the political distortions, he was ignored: Vint Cerf responded to MSNBC From http://www.msnbc.com:80/news/249325.asp (which has apparently subsequently timed out). See also ``Revisionist Internet History.'' �jsq Vint Cerf responded to MSNBC's questions about the Net's origins with this e-mail: VP Gore was the first or surely among the first of the members of Congress to become a strong supporter of advanced networking while he served as Senator. As far back as 1986, he was holding hearings on this subject (supercomputing, fiber networks...) and asking about their promise and what could be done to realize them. Bob Kahn, with whom I worked to develop the Internet design in 1973, participated in several hearings held by then-Senator Gore and I recall that Bob introduced the term ``information infrastructure'' in one hearing in 1986. It was clear that as a Senator and now as Vice President, Gore has made it a point to be as well-informed as possible on technology and issues that surround it. As Senator, VP Gore was highly supportive of the research community's efforts to explore new networking capabilities and to extend access to supercomputers by way of NSFNET and its successors, the High Performance Computing and Communication program (which included the National Research and Education Network initiative), and as Vice President, he has been very responsive to recommendations made, for example, by the President's Information Technology Advisory Committee that endorsed additional research funding for next generation fundamental research in software and related topics. If you look at the last 30-35 years of network development, you'll find many people who have made major contributions without which the Internet would not be the vibrant, growing and exciting thing it is today. The creation of a new information infrastructure requires the willing efforts of thousands if not millions of participants and we've seen leadership from many quarters, all of it needed, to move the Internet towards increased availability and utility around the world. While it is not accurate to say that VP Gore invented Internet, he has played a powerful role in policy terms that has supported its continued growth and application, for which we should be thankful. We're fortunate to have senior level members of Congress and the Administration who embrace new technology and have the vision to see how it can be put to work for national and global benefit. At 11:41 AM 4/8/02 -0500, you wrote: >I did not say you were an elitist, rather than the rhetoric you were >espousing was. Read the quote on the page you sent. Gores words are >right there..."I took the initiative in creating the internet" you may >have to twist his meaning a bit but certainly not his words. Oh, now >you take the high road and say personal attacks are wrong, but calling >someone a moron is just fine :) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:36 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Bush's Mid East Policy > >I realize that Al Gore is human. I also realize that there is a lot if >information on the internet created by people who twist >facts around including the tired old myth that Gore claimed that he >invented the internet >(http://www.snopes2.com/quotes/internet.htm) which is simply not true. > >I am not an elitist and, since you have resorted to personal attacks, I >have nothing more to say on this matter. > >Howie > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 12:06 PM >Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy > > > > Oh I forgot....Al is blind...and who knows Caesar and his senate might > > have had their bust there and he really got his facts straight about > > that whole creating the internet thing, amongst his other gaffes...so > > come down off your elitist high horse and realize yes even Al Gore is > > human. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:02 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: Bush's Mid East Policy > > > > Well, the busts were way up on the wall (near the ceiling) and they >were > > the pseudo-classic busts where the subjects are wearing > > leaves and such like ancient Roman busts. And, at least Gore gets his > > facts straight before speaking. > > > > Howie > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Michael Corrigan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 11:50 AM > > Subject: Re: Bush's Mid East Policy > > > > > > > Good point! I forgot about that one. > > > > > > Michael Corrigan > > > Programmer > > > Endora Digital Solutions > > > 1900 Highland Avenue, Suite 200 > > > Lombard, IL 60148 > > > 630-627-5055 ext.-136 > > > 630/627-5255 Fax > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt > > > To: CF-Community > > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:40 AM > > > Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy > > > > > > > > > So I suppose when Al Gore walked into Monticello and was >surrounded > > by > > > the busts of the founding fathers and said "Who are these people?" > > that > > > was ok because it's not really relevant because they aren't are > > largest > > > trading partner. I take that as a bigger insult than not knowing >the > > > current Canadian Prime Minister :) > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:36 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy > > > > > > the man was running for President. He should know the name of the > > leader > > > of > > > this country's largest trading partner. Its not even a matter of > > some > > > aide > > > making a mistake in his briefings. Its such a basic bit of >necessary > > > knowledge that stupidity is the only answer. > > > > > > As for Kennedy, one incident, in contrast here are some recent > > quotes of > > > > > > Shrub's: > > > > > > "I hit the trifecta.' - George W. Bush to his budget director >after > > the > > > Sept. 11 attacks in reference to his frequently stated vow not to > > touch > > > Social Security except in the even of war, national disaster or > > > recession > > > > > > When asked if the events of the last four months have changed him > > Bush > > > offered the simultaneously vain and superficial reply,'Talk to my > > wife. > > > I > > > don't spend a lot of time looking in the mirror, except when I >comb > > my > > > hair...'" > > > > > > larry > > > > > > At 10:00 AM 4/8/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > >Man....and I supposed you could still rattle off the capitals of > > all > > > >fifty states right. There is a lot of information a world leader > > has > > > to > > > >digest. He is human he will make a few mistakes here and there. >I > > do > > > >remember JFK trying to speak a little German and say "I am a > > Berliner". > > > >But it came out more like "I am a donut". So give the guy a >break. > > I > > > >think he is doing a good job. > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > >From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > >Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 9:55 AM > > > >To: CF-Community > > > >Subject: RE: Bush's Mid East Policy > > > > > > > >As for Bush may not be a moron, but he is quite ignorant of most >of > > the > > > >world. For instance, during the election he publicly stated that >he > > > >wanted > > > >to thank the Prime Minister of Canada "Poutine" for his support. > > The > > > >prime > > > >minister's name is Chretien. He was set up by a Canadian comedian > > > during > > > >a > > > >press conference. Any idiot should have known the Canadian PM's > > name if > > > >said idiot was running for office. There is also his well > > documented > > > >gaffs > > > >regarding Nigeria, and Greece (grecians?). I could go on, but in > > > general > > > > > > > >the size of my Bushisms file has recently become larger than my >Dan > > > >Quayle > > > >file of idiocies. > > > > > > > >The man is an idiot. > > > > > > > >larry > > > > > > > >At 08:15 AM 4/8/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > > >Our support of Israel is one of the reasons 9/11 happened. > > > > > > > > > >And Bush is not a moron....I will give you that he is not the > > best > > > > >public speaker but he is getting better. > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > >From: Todd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > >Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 6:23 AM > > > > >To: CF-Community > > > > >Subject: Re: Bush's Mid East Policy > > > > > > > > > > > *shrug* > > > > > > > > > > > > Sometimes I think Bush is a moron. > > > > > > > > > >Only sometimes? ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The double speak coming from him is rather idiotic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just the other day he was declaring that they understand the > > > Israeli > > > > > > reaction and support it. > > > > > > > > > > > > -Gel > > > > > > > > > >Todd > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. 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