On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Sam wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2008 at 3:15 PM, denstar wrote: >> Sam (and now Robert), in case you haven't realized it yet: the >> religious reference only plays well with your kind (wanna-be, or "neo" >> conservatives). Same goes for "attire says how patriotic you are". > > What religious reference?
Doesn't "The One" refer to Jesus? > >> Guess good stuff does come out of bad stuff tho, neh? We're >> socialists now, thanks to the "conservative" party. (I put it in >> quotes because it's not really conservative at all, see? Plus, we're >> not really socialists, but whatever, I'm ruining my own joke) > > Don't blame us. :) It was those who voted for Bush. Especially and without pity if they did it twice. (*they* ruined my joke! j/k) Congress and local judges and whatnot are important too, but that presidential one... well, it's symbolic. Representative, maybe. It's bad enough The Onion nailed his first term, before he started. We put him in there for "4 more years". And his whole second campaign was based on Fear from the first, for Christ's sake! A lot can be done in 8 (look at Clinton, with partial control), not so much in two (especially with partial control), but a crap-load should have been done in 8, with 6 of 'em being near unlimited power. And still you are blaming Democrats for all our problems?!?! That is crazy, Sam. I don't really want to blame-- well, I *want* to blame, but I know the constructive thing is to teach-- however the want, the selfish want related sorta to "I told you so" keeps surfacing. And instead of just say'n "I know, I made a mistake, stop reminding me, asshole", which would probably go a long way towards peace (heh), it's "the *real* fault lies in the Democrat's hands" or "Clinton set all this up before he left office" or some other rationalization. It's sad that the Republicans can throw Bush under a bus, and yet not really admit do having anything to do with what went down. This is a team effort, Sam. When we vote, we're not doing that old "three executioners pulling switches, only one is live, but that way none of them need feel responsible" deal. It's not like a firing-squad, where some of them are blanks, so, perhaps it wasn't you. We blame the people who represent us quite a bit, but, hell, who the fuck put them there? Us (and lots of money, but that's another story). We need to be able to admit when things are bad, so we can fix them. And then we need to fix them, after we admit they are bad (amazingly, this part can sometimes just never get done). And it's not all about just one person-- but it can be all about just one person. The people at the top doing bad, enables those below to do bad, and not feel too bad about it. When we support that behavior... >> Put that on your pin, and poke it. > > Obama said he doesn't wear a pin because it's fake patriotism, now he > wears one. Just proves you can't trust anything he says. I had no idea our candidates attire, and opinions thereof, were so important to you. :-P * * * Honestly, I've got to say I'm pretty proud of the folks on this list. I think a lot of lists would have had people threatening violence to each other by this point. All we've done is get intermittently nasty to one another. Which is still lame, in a sense, but still. =] -- We only understand that which already within us. Henri Frederic Amiel ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:275520 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
