it's not. But if anyone cares about my opinion, there you have it.
Need to go work on stuff now. When I come back later I may be able to
discuss real issues if anyone is interested. Cutting spending, hmm. Do
you thnik it will help? Depends on what you cut, right? did he have
any thoughts on that? Cause I didn't hear any.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Charlie Griefer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> fair enough on the comparison, but I don't have time to write up a
>> detailed analysis today. Based on my reading on the subject over the
>> past months, that is how it looks to me today. We have thoughtful vs.
>> not thoughtful. Some specifics though:
>>
>
> I've got no issue with any of that.  Everyone involved has made a choice (or
> will make a choice).  We're obviously not all going to agree, but I have
> zero issue hearing, "based on my research, I feel that... ".  If you've come
> up with "thoughtful vs not thoughtful" I totally respect that (and yeah, I'm
> sure you're going to sleep easier knowing that) :)
>
>
>> Spending GOP campaign funds on the wardrobe does not appear to have
>> been illegal or even unethical as long as certain i's get dotted and
>> all the t's are crossed. But think for a moment about *why* they did
>> this. Your average mom does not wear Manolo Blahnick. Do they no know
>> this? If they don't do I -- an average mom who had to look up the
>> spelling of the name -- really think the GOP ticket will represent my
>> interests? Not.
>>
>
> I've said this repeatedly in the other thread, but they dressed her up for a
> job interview (or more appropriately, a series of job interviews).  I
> wouldn't expect her to be campaigning in a pair of jeans, flannel shirt, and
> a parka.  Nor would I expect any of the male candidates to campaign in a
> pair of jeans and a t-shirt.  Do I think they could have gotten her a decent
> wardrobe for less than $150k?  Absolutely.  But to go back to your point
> about Obama's $2m party (a point that I agree with)... what final $ amount
> would have been acceptable?  If it were only $75k (half of the actual
> amount), there would *still* be people upset.
>
> Campaigning is marketing and marketing is dressing up your product to the
> best of your ability.
>
>
>> OK, McCain vowed. What is he going to shift *to*?
>>
>> /me listens to crickets
>>
>
> Not that I believe him any more than I believe any campaign promise made by
> any candidate, but since you ask, he points out that he wants to cut
> spending (rather than raise taxes).  Please don't ask me to defend that
> statement.  As I've alluded to, or flat out said in the past, I think all
> politicians are scum.  My point in raising the soundbite was to illustrate
> that it's easy to pluck something positive from either party.
>
>
>> Isn't it a bit late to realize that the economy is an issue?
>>
>> McCain is a decent guy and I really regret that he didn't win in 2000.
>> But the people he associates with worry me, and I am not saying that
>> to be sarcastic. That voter suppression issue is drop-dead legitimate
>> and the guy who hired it done works for the GOP. That is NOT ok.
>>
>
> And I'm not about to try and convince you otherwise.  I *don't* think he's
> squeaky clean.  But I don't think anyone in politics is, and that's what
> gets to me.  When I see people paint the picture with such broad strokes
> (Obama Good McCain Bad).  It ain't that cut-and-dry and recognizing that
> isn't rocket surgery either :)
>
> --
> I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my
> wife. And I wish you my kind of success.
>
>
> 

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