Obviously you weren't paying attention. I said that I think it is problematic that people could be giving (theoretically) large numbers of small dollar donations. I don't see any evidence of that, but I am all in favor of it being investigated.
But I think it is totally ludicrous to get the collective panties in a twist over small dollar donations when people are easily able to give tens of thousands of dollars at a time to campaigns with little or no oversight. I'm hugely in favor of campaign finance reform as I keep stating over and over. There are holes that you could drive a supertanker through, I agree. $200 donations aren't one of them though. As for your point about how someone who is an illegal alien (I still haven't read up on the case too much so I'm not certain), I've done a lot of credit card processing systems and I don't know a single one that allows you to determine citizenship. I'm in favor of investigating how we can make the system better. But in the grand scheme of problems with financing of elections in the US, this is chump change and the FUD being spread by Robert and his ilk make me throw up a little bit in my mouth in disgust. We've got problems in this country. Serious problems. I don't know if Obama or McCain will be able to fix them. But this shit? Disagreements on tax policy make sense to me. I don't agree with a couple folks on this list, but that's an issue that it is important to get down and dirty about. Same with healthcare. The bailout is important. Lets deal with actual problems, shall we? On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I find most intriguing is that you cannot even admit that it is > possible some one would take advantage of the rules for low dollar donations > to donate more than is allowable by law (though I could imagine some on this > list would cry outrage is McCain was the candidate with the high amounts of > low dollar donations). > > Its not a matter of 'is some one doing it?', but 'can some one do it?' The > answer to the first question is 'we don't know' (but I feel that if there is > a loophole, you can bet that both parties are exploiting it). The answer to > the second question is 'yes'. I think that the fact that a person who is > technically an 'illegal alien' was able to donate to any campaign is a > pretty good indicator that something needs to be changed. > > Personally, I think that each individual, company or organization should be > limited to a $1000 TOTAL donation, period. This way the wealthy do not have > a disproportionate influence over any candidate. (and that $1000 is kind of > a random number, and purposely low, hell I would be OK with $500 or even > $250) > > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> And I'll still take a thousand 200 dollar donations over a couple >> slimy 50,000 dollar donations to a 527 org. Campaign finance is >> broken. Picking on low dollar donors is utterly reprehensible. In the >> grand scheme of things it is the least of the least and you are doing >> a grave disservice to your country and your own ethics by repeatedly >> masturbating to the the right-wing fantasy that this is what is >> bringing down the country. >> >> Plenty of shit is wrong in this country, lets focus on some real problems, >> ok? >> >> >> >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > The fact that she stayed in the country illegally is not a huge deal. The >> > fact that a non-citizen can donate more than $200 without being detected >> is >> > a huge deal. The individual transaction isn't a big deal, but what it >> says >> > about the way donations are collected is a HUGE. It demonstrates that >> anyone >> > in the world can donate to Obama's campaign (and McCain's, but let's face >> > it, like Gel says, the "world" wants Obama to win) without detection, as >> > long as they donate in small amounts. >> > >> > On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Charlie wrote: >> > >> >> I'm not saying it's "a good thing"... I'm just saying in the grand >> scheme >> >> of >> >> things, this isn't particularly newsworthy >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:277971 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
