Wait...so if Chavez had brought in tanks and Bush was still president you would not be concerned?
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 6:59 AM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > i suppose that due to previous comments i am obligated to worry about > chavez npw that bush is gone. Preliminary assessment =tanks are not a > good sign... > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 11:17 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > I knew I could depend on you to think that. And yes, I think that 10 > > years ago he did think he was protecting the poor and disenfranchised. > > History is littered with stories of a similar nature. Fighting for the > > little guy turns the person popular, the adulation gets to their head, > > they start seizing more and more power "for the good of the people" > > and the insular world they form around them and they become terribly > > corrupted. > > > > That's why I worry about the consolidation of executive power under > > Bush and why I sure as hell hope that we get a greater balance of > > power in the coming administration between the branches than we did in > > the last one. You'll also never see me pushing for an amendment to > > allow President's to serve beyond 2 terms, no matter how much I might > > like a particular oval office resident. > > > > I do agree with you though that Chavez should not have been able to > > consolidate power the way he has. Checks and balances are an important > > part of any mature democracy. My greatest fear for the new > > administration is the temptation take the ill-gotten power of the > > previous administration and try to use it in a misguided attempt to > > correct the sins of the past. We must be a nation of laws, open and > > transparent. I hope that they can resist temptation...giving up power > > is never easy. > > > > Judah > > > > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:05 PM, Robert Munn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> I don't think Chavez took power with any intention of helping people. > He > >> used populist rhetoric to win support from the poor and then > consolidated > >> his power through a series of moves that would have never been allowed > in a > >> mature democracy. He actually tried to get himself elected president for > >> life, but even the poor people who supported his version of Marxist > class > >> warfare thought that was asking too much and they voted down the idea. > So > >> now he's threatening straight-up Soviet-style repression of all dissent. > >> Just wait until he starts the "re-education" camps. > >> > >> Are you surprised? I'm not. > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:279962 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
