I used to live in NH for my early years. We came into the city for the holidays but we 
weren't really religious at all. When I was 8 or so my father wanted me to have a 
Jewish education and we moved to NY. I went to and got kicked out of most of the 
Yeshiva's in Brooklyn until I settled into public school for JHS. I skipped much of HS 
getting my mind together and getting my position in life. It was at that point that my 
religion meant more to me as I had time to examine it. Up till that point it was 
'going through the motions' After that (mid teens or so) I knew who I was, what I 
wanted, how the world was set up and a lot more. I can say that I made myself 
religious.
Actually, one of the big things that helped me in seeing the world as I do now was my 
study of magic. If one decides that there is a spiritual dimension to the world and it 
is possible to access and/or visit it, then magic must have some basis. My study of 
magic through the ages almost always led me back to the same place; Kabbalah. If all 
of these magicians were doing their work based on Jewish material, maybe I should look 
at the original material. Doing so showed me many things and brought me closer to my 
religion.

At 02:35 PM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>When and how did you become religious?
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Michael Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:52 AM
>Subject: RE: Circumcision article link
>
>
>> Pig is one of the animals specifically mentioned as being not allowed.
>Even when I wasn't religious I didn't eat it (and I was just a kid). Closest
>I've come is soy bacon. salty, but I love it. :)
>>
>> At 11:39 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>> >so as far as your concerned it's a commandment not to eat pork?
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >Sent: 12 April 2002 16:40
>> >To: CF-Community
>> >Subject: Re: Circumcision article link
>> >
>> >
>> >Actually, a religious person (at least this one) looks at it and says
>that
>> >its a commandment and I'm doing it because its a commandment. If science
>> >says that the commandment has a physical effect, then fine and good. The
>> >physical effect is totally secondary to the spiritual effect.
>> >To say that the commandment or every commandment was done for a physical
>> >reason such as health opens the door to denial of the root of the
>> >commandment. Hey, not eating pork was because of trichinosis. If we cook
>it
>> >right then we wouldn't get the disease and we can now eat it. Same for
>all
>> >the other commandments. This is the rational of the reform movement and a
>> >rational rejected by religious Jews.
>> >
>> >At 03:51 AM 4/12/02, you wrote:
>> >>It seems that much of the old testament law, such as circumcision, what
>to
>> >eat and not to eat, etc., has a good basis in what is healthy, especailly
>> >given the lack of sanitary conditions of the times.
>> >>
>> >>A religious person might argue that this is God making up the lack of
>> >science of the time to protect people. A non-believer might argue that
>this
>> >is wise people coming up religious law to mirror their own observations
>> >about what makes a person sick.  Either way, it demonstrates a good deal
>of
>> >wisdom in the old books.
>> >>
>> >>H.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>> >>from: "Braver, Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> >>date: Thu, 11 Apr 2002 19:56:23 -0700
>> >>
>> >>>Found a link to the original article on circumcision & risk of cervical
>> >>>cancer - it's in the New England Journal of Medicine:
>> >>>http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/short/346/15/1105
>> >>>
>> >>>Apparently, the foreskin is particularly susceptible to infection from
>HPV
>> >-
>> >>>human papilloma virus - which is linked to cervical cancer.
>> >>>
>> >>>-Ben
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> 
>
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