That makes sense, what I don't want to see is laws saying that you must 
own and carry.
I believe there's a city in Texas or Alabama, where it's illegal *not* 
to own and carry a firearm.

Do you think that the second amendment protects the inverse? The right 
*not* to bear arms



Loathe wrote:
> Make it so they aren't illegal, make the actions committed with them
> illegal.
>
> That is, in my opinion, the only way to constitutionally deal with it. 
>
>   
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 2:27 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: questions from the gun control thread
>>
>> Back to the original question, how do we solve the problem of 
>> illegal firearms...
>>
>> Loathe wrote:
>>     
>>> Assault weapons are used less than any other class of 
>>>       
>> firearms in crimes. 
>>     
>>> I don't think it was well established in that thread at al 
>>>       
>> that they 
>>     
>>> are part of the major gun crime issue at all.  They are 
>>>       
>> scary looking 
>>     
>>> and people have banned them for that reason alone.
>>>
>>>   
>>>       
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2008 9:58 AM
>>>> To: cf-community
>>>> Subject: Re: questions from the gun control thread
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> It was well established in the gun control thread that the major 
>>>>> gun/crime issue is illegal handguns/illegal assault weapons
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> (IMO). What
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>>> are people's thoughts on stopping the trade in illegal 
>>>>>           
>> firearms. I'm 
>>     
>>>>> not sure I buy the argument to "just arm everyone else", 
>>>>>           
>> while the 
>>     
>>>>> Constitution is interpreted to guarantee the right to 
>>>>>           
>> legally own a 
>>     
>>>>> firearm, doesn't it also guarantee the right not to?
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>           
>>>> have chemical taggants in all ammunition. That way tracing becomes 
>>>> much easier. The last time this was proposed, the NRA was 
>>>>         
>> against it.
>>     
>>>> Make ammunition much much more expensive.
>>>>
>>>> Make firearms much more difficult to transport. If the 
>>>>         
>> user does not 
>>     
>>>> have a transportation certificate its a 3 month jail term 
>>>>         
>> and $5000 
>>     
>>>> fine if they cannot produce the certificate within 24 
>>>>         
>> hours at their 
>>     
>>>> nearest police station.
>>>>
>>>> Reduce the penalties for drugs.
>>>>
>>>> Another problem and one I cannot see how to to deal with 
>>>>         
>> is that most 
>>     
>>>> firearm related crimes and suicides are impulsive.
>>>> its very easy to pick up a pistol and blaze away, essentially an 
>>>> impulse. Its much more involved and deliberative to take a 
>>>>         
>> baseball 
>>     
>>>> bat and beat the crap out of someone else. It also gives 
>>>>         
>> that person 
>>     
>>>> a much better opportunity to beat the crap out of you. If 
>>>>         
>> you could 
>>     
>>>> really reduce the impulsive nature of firearms then that 
>>>>         
>> would go a 
>>     
>>>> long way to reduce firearm related incidents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>>       
>>     
>
> 

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