these are good points too, thoguh irrelevant to anyone wanting to get married tomorrow. I remember once back in the seventies meeting someone from South Africa, which had apartheid and Naelson Mandela in jail. He was thinking that perhaps the of the segregation laws ought to be relaxed.
Of course there is a difference of degree here but I think we are looking at the same sort of diconnect... On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 6:53 AM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sweet Jebus. > > I appreciate that you're very passionate about this issue. For you I > probably represent everything you hate about the right wing. However I think > you're going a little overboard here. The only thing I share with any > conservative is the love of the colour blue (go Everton) and perhaps my > (changing) opinion on gay marriage. > > I never asked for, nor do I need anyone to pity me. I certainly don't pity > myself through this process. I posted the follow up thread because I felt I > owed everyone a bit of an explanation because of my earlier posts. I didn't > write it (or at least I didn't think I did) with a sense of poor me. I wrote > it because I wanted the people who had planted the seed to know that it had > an impact. I'd never put a whole lot of rational thought into it and > starting on Wednesday I did. I felt it was important for the people who took > the time to try and make me see it their way to know that I was at least > being introspective on the issue. And now you seem angry that I am. You seem > like you'd prefer me to stay oppossed so you can hate me rather than allow > me to change my mind. This seems so counterproductive to what it is you're > fighting against. > > To be clear I haven't oppressed anyone's rights. As I've stated before I > haven't voted on any laws for or against gay marriage. I've had the same > effect as someone who is for gay marriage but hasn't cast a ballot. And I > think your analogies are skewed. You allude to me endorsing the removal of > more gay rights while I stay in my state of indecision. I don't remember > stating anything even remotely comparable to that. > > You also seem to think that I have drawn a separation between the legal and > the conceived moral aspects of this. Since I stated I've never given it much > thought it would seem obvious that I've not gone so far as to try and > separate the two. Hence the response "baby steps." Meaning I'm only now > truly analyzing my opinion and right away you're back at me and asking me to > define exactly what it is I don't even know if I'm opposing. > > It seems to me that you want the people you meet to be already in your > corner. If not you want them to stay with the opposition so that you can > hate them. If your argument starts working on the opposition you get angry > with them because your plan is succeeding. With all due respect Gruss I > think it's you that's being the fucktard. > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:281150 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
