True, but I think the decision was ultimately made to protect the workers at such establishments. Just as I should reasonably expect a smoke free environment here at my work, same goes for waiters and waitresses and bartenders, etc.
I don't know if I necessarily agree with it (bars and restaurants are different...smoking has long been a big part of the attraction for many people)....but that's the reasoning. On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:18 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] <[email protected]>wrote: > Well if I go to a restaurant where it's both legal and ok with the > restaurant for me to pee where I like then I should expect to get > splattered. I wouldn't choose to go the Golden Shower Grill if I had an > aversion to getting peed on (which I do). If you go to a restaurant where > they allow smoking then you've made the choice to be in a situation where > you may inhale smoke. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:46 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: I am all for gay marriage... > > OK, what if i aerosolized the urine? > > If yo ustand by a urinal you should expect to get spalshed with pee and if > I > go to a cigar bar, I shoudl expect to inhale second hand smoke. However, > neither of us should expect either result if we are sitting down to eat a > meal. > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > I guess if the person was blowing it your face your analogy would be > > appropriate. I don't really think that you pouring urine on someone is > the > > same as second-hand smoke. Now if I choose to stand beside a urinal I > can't > > really say my rights are being violated when I get splashed with pee. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 1:08 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: I am all for gay marriage... > > > > I will go back to what I said to someone once. > > > > I like to drink beer. One by-product of me drinking beer is urine. Is > it > > ok for me to dump that by-product on someone'e head? If not, than it is > not > > OK for someone else to blow second hand smole where I might inhale it. > > > > Sorry, once again I think a person's right to not breathe second hand > smoke > > trumps another person's right to produce that second hand smoke. > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > I think the majority of smokers need to be more considerate and that > many > > > anti-smokers need to be a little less outraged by the whole thing. > > Smoking > > > is on the decline steadily and it won't be that many more years before > > you > > > can't smoke anywhere in public. (Despite the fact you'll still be able > to > > > eat yourself into the hospital all you want.) I think everyone needs to > > try > > > and be a little more considerate or one another. > > > > > > That being said, it's not illegal so therefore you can exercise your > > right > > > to do it, no matter how ignorantly you might choose to. A smoker can > > smoke > > > (by-laws permitting) or exercise any other rights they have. You can > > > exercise your rights in the same way. If you don't like the way someone > > > else > > > is exercising the same rights that's a matter of opinion. You aren't > > > infringing on someone rights by exercising your own. > > > > > > > Why is it OK to have that attitude on a personal level, but not a > > > corporate one? > > > Well a smoker doesn't personally gain by smoking. A corporation gains a > > lot > > > by spewing smoke into the air or power companies with high tension > power > > > lines. I think that's why there's a difference. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2008 12:14 PM > > > To: cf-community > > > Subject: Re: I am all for gay marriage... > > > > > > See, that is where I think smoker's logic is flawed. They feel that > > their > > > right to smoke (and produce second hand smoke) outweighs the rights of > > > those > > > who do not want to breathe that second hand smoke. I see it as the > > > opposite, and did when I smoked. > > > > > > Why is it OK to have that attitude on a personal level, but not a > > corporate > > > one? If you do not want to live near factories spewing smoke into the > > air, > > > then you can remove yourself from that situation? If you do not want to > > > live > > > near high tension power lines, remove yourself from that situation. > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:05 PM, Michael Grant [Modus IS] > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > I will grant you that, but if you agree that a smoker had a right > to > > > > smoke, > > > > > than common sense would dictate that you would agree a non-smoker > has > > a > > > > > right to not breathe second-hand smoke. > > > > > > > > Well non-smokers do have the right not to breathe in second-hand > smoke. > > > > Technically it's your choice to stay in a situation where there is > > second > > > > hand smoke, and it's also your choice to breathe in that situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:283552 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
