On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 10:34 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > You have an Us or Them mentality. Your mock-up version of me actually > represents how you feel about me and people like me. It's difficult to > have a discussion with someone so oblivious and arrogant.
I don't really think it is an Us or Them mentality, honestly. I enjoy discussions with people of differing political and economic views than my own, including with people on this list.Fine points are made and I occasionally even learn something in the process. But yes, the mock-up does represent how I feel about you. Its not being oblivious. I have little but disdain for your commonly expressed views and the way in which you express them. I find the willful ignorance frightening and dangerous. Arrogant? Yes. Unabashedly so. Arrogance is nothing to be ashamed of. Misplaced arrogance is another matter. There are areas in which I express a great deal of uncertainty because I lack the knowledge to be certain. In other areas I am much more, as you say, arrogant. And that is because I am intelligent, aware and have a rather decent understanding of those areas. I know little of your personal life and you very well may lead an exemplary existence, be a kind and generous man and a fine parent. I certainly hope that is true. But do believe me when I say that its not an Us vs Them mentality, I don't paint Republican/Libertarians/Insert group of your choice with one broad brush and put them all in the same box. My mocking of you is just for you and the illogical, doctrinaire, painfully obtuse, wantonly ignorant crap that you spew here. >> As for the inauguration, no official events are being funded by any >> donations from lobbyists, corporations or unions, so its not clear >> what you are rambling about as usual. > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123146096981566339.html Yes, its pretty gross isn't it? I'd really rather the inauguration was a judge, a couple members of congress, a couple members of the media and family. 10 inaugural balls? Ugh. And I don't think that Obama should have accepted donations from anyone involved in the bailout. There are lots of things I don't agree with Obama on. Want to hear me go off about his selection of Vilsack for Sec. of Agriculture? That pick makes me want to start hitting the jug of corn ethanol hard. As for rethinking the bailout, I was on the fence to start with and said so here. It was a complex set of circumstances and the amount of money involved was huge. Robert argued quite convincingly that it sucked up was something we didn't have a choice on. I cautiously moved my opinion in favor of it because of arguments like his but still felt bad about it. In the end I felt it could be ok if it was done with proper oversight and the Bush administration didn't get up to their usual games of secrecy, absolute power and rewarding rich friends while fucking over the poor. Thus far they managed to gut or delay oversight completely and not actually buy the mortgages that they originally said they would but they haven't been as bad as they could have been and I think it is too soon to tell if the program has been at all successful. Judah ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:284495 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
