This always come back to Jews vs. Muslims. *sigh*

Hmm, well I don't know many terrorist groups, but the top 3 groups that come
to mind when I think terrorist:

1. Al Qaida (sp?)
2. Mujahedeen (sp?)
3. IRA
I understand the point you are trying to make but I think because of your
own bias you cannot understand the one I am making.

These two things are not equal:

All Al Qaida are Muslim != All Muslim are Al Qaida


On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
> What makes it seem strange? The fact that he's somewhere that he would have
> no reason to be at a time that normal people would not be there. If you saw
> me at a piggly wiggly at 3am then you should be suspicious.
> The description of Muslim does make a difference as I saw in the beginning
> of the week. It wasn't an Indian, a Mormon, or an octogenarian who came
> into
> the synagogue threatening jihad. It was a Muslim. If I saw a skinhead
> hanging around a synagogue at strange hours I'd be concerned as well.
> I can count on one hand the amount of groups who teach out and out violence
> against Jews. Muslims, Neo-Nazis, and White Supremacists are the top 3
> without anyone else coming close. So who are the top 3 groups that come to
> mind when you think terrorist? Forget PC and be honest with yourself. You
> don't even have to say it out loud (yes, I know about your fear of
> Buddhists).
> Adding the descriptor of an associated group to a profile is not fringe,
> it's standard.
>
>
> Your second example. Arab looking guy in a car with an Allah rules bumper
> > sticker hanging around synagogues at strange hours. You tell me what
> makes
> > this seems strange? Is it his appearance and his bumper sticker or is it
> > the
> > fact he's hanging around synagogues at strange hours of the night? Does
> the
> > description of "Muslim" make a difference? I don't think so. Are you
> going
> > to ignore the white guy with the Hitler rules bumper sticker hanging
> around
> > synagogues at strange hours?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 2:30 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > No, they should be questioned because they fit a profile that takes
> their
> > > age, race and perceived socio-economic status (based on the class of
> car)
> > > into account in addition to their location at a specific time. This
> > profile
> > > was very effective in catching kids buying drugs. So if you want to see
> > an
> > > equivalent then we can take some Arab looking guy in a car with a
> "Allah
> > > Rules" bumper sticker hanging around synagogues at strange hours of the
> > > night. Or he can have henna in his beard (a sign of devotion) or he can
> > > have
> > > a handful of steriotypical clothing or or or. A profile has more than a
> > > single element.
> > >
> > > I'm not seeing the congruency in your example either.
> > >
> > > Ok, so in this example they should be questioned because they are in a
> > > black
> > > > neighbourhood. To go along with the thread topic we replace "Some
> white
> > > > kids
> > > > in a Ferrari" with a "Some Arab looking guys in robes who may/may not
> > be
> > > > Muslim" right? What's the equivalent then to "a black neighbourhood"
> in
> > > the
> > > > Arab (Muslim) profile? Does America = the black neighbourhood? I'm
> just
> > > not
> > > > really seeing the congruency here.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> 

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