On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Gruss Gott wrote: > >> Denny wrote: >> Are you honestly suggesting that 9/11 occurred because we didn't pay >> enough attention to the attackers skin color, or apparel, or place of >> worship? > > I'm not suggesting it I'm saying it's documented fact; but I'm also > saying you list is only a partial one. > > The nights before the 9/11 attack, Atta and others were hitting strip > clubs essentially bragging about what they were going to do.
OMFG, Gruss, what's the deal, yo? =] Is this some type of experiment/trollfest for ya? Yes, I remember that now-- in the documentary, they were all like "but the BIGGEST break-down in communication, and the real pivotal turning point, was that night in the strip joint". Great fact there dude, way to address the problem. Remember right after the attack? If only more of the general populace would, like, report the suspicious brown-skinned guys eating at Denny's and whatnot, neh? Yeah, that would be k-rad. Way to keep us safe thar, G-Star! Good ROI, too! > I get that you emotional types want to fly in and rescue those you > feel are being oppressed - me too. > > What I'm saying is: rescue yourselves, because you're under attack. What I value is *always* under attack. That's why this country was formed (IMO), to protect these values. Overall, things are getting better, but we're also getting more capable of "ending it all". > I couldn't care less about Muslims or Christians or Hinto or any skin > color; I ain't "white" myself. > > What I'm saying is that as long as we're afraid to point out a problem > is a community (pick your grouping), it will remain a problem. I get it. Since there are a lot of black people in jail, until we realize that the problem is black people, we won't be able to address it. Did you laugh at that xkcd comic? > Here's the point: > > I'm not a black guy. So if I stand up and say there's problem with > Men taking responsibility as fathers I get attacked - probably by you > emotes - as being racist. Unfair, but that's reality because people > are weak minded. > > So what's the best way to fix the problem? > > A black dude needs to stand up and say it. That takes real courage. > Well, Cosby and Obama have both done it. They got attacked for it by, > for example, Jesse Jackson. Wow, dude, that's what you think it will take to fix "the problem"? The best way, too? I'm sorry, but I just don't agree. But, I am a white guy, and I've been a minority, so, I realize that it's mostly about numbers. > See some people want to point the finger else where before they fix > their own house; The honorable fix their house first. > > So what I'm telling you is that, factually, the Muslim community has a > problem with extremist murderers on a global scale. That's not > opinion. > > Now you emotes can attack me for being racist - and you have - but how > did that change the fact? Didn't. I never got on that thread, that I recall. Don't remember calling you racist. Not even un-PC. I'm just saying that I think the way you want to allocate resources is dumb. You are smart. > I realize that. > > What I'm hoping is that you sober up and tell your Muslim friends that > they should speak out; they need to be Cosby or Obama within their > communities. > > Because if they stay silent - and let's be clear, they have - then > eventually the problem will fester to the point where outsiders have > to take action. The problem, being terrorism? Or some specific form/group of terrorism? I'm sorry, I'm not too sober right now, sorta not seeing how this is the best solution to, preventing terrorism, or whatever we're sorta talking about. > So if you emotes care as much as you pretend to, then help be part of > the solution. > > Because if all you can do is attack the messenger - me - then you're > part of problem. > > And that problem is what got us here in the first place. Me being too PC (pauses for a laugh or two) and attacking you is problematic? That's what got us here in the first place? People wanting to hurt us, being "here"? > So grow a pair and stop being cowards. Remember, Gruss-- I was pretty pissed at the Republicans when they dissed Ron Paul for talking about blowback during the debates. Just think about that for a minute or two, please? -- If we admit a thing so extraordinary as the creation of this world, it should seem that we admit something strange, and odd, and new to human apprehension, beyond any other miracle whatsoever. George Be ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:291828 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
