I hear ya Erika. I know people will eventually realize that the implications
of being wasteful are REAL, as generations pass on. It's not so much a
hippie/left-wing/tree-hugging thing as it is common sense. When there's a
limited resource, it's common sense to use what you need. When there's a
limited resource that drives our society as we know it (the electricity
that's allowing me to talk about muffins with a woman from Europe), it's
common sense to try to use less than you need. Why do some people insist on
using more, just because they can? That's just being a stubborn ego freak.

Adam.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Erika L. Walker-Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 2:47 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee
> 
> 
> WHAT???
> 
> A Jeep Grand Cherokee, even though I don't particularly like them (I
> drive an Oldsmobile Bravada), are by no means the worse choice he/she
> could make. Be grateful they aren't driving a Ford Excursion, or a
> Lincoln Navigator. Now there's a couple of resource hogs.
> 
> This may be an interesting debate, but it's a tiresome one. 
> People like
> their big vehicles, and there isn't much in our lifetime 
> that's going to
> change their minds. It'll probably take a few more generations to come
> round full circle. 
> 
> It's interesting over here in the UK where almost ALL the 
> cars are tiny
> .. And of course the Smart Car is popular as well. But Europe has tiny
> roads, and gas is extravagant.
> 
> So people buy small cars and/or commute to work via train/bus.
> 
> America is VAST and gas is cheap. Families are big, traveling is fun,
> people like big cars and trucks. Ahh, the freedom of choice.
> 
> I'm sorry I drive a big SUV, but I love my SUV. :)
> 
> 
> Erika
> ------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> >>| -----Original Message-----
> >>| From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> >>| Sent: 30 April 2002 20:24
> >>| To: CF-Community
> >>| Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee
> >>| 
> >>| 
> >>| Maybe you should consider a vehicle that's shocks need not 
> >>| support 4000lbs of steel. And at 16Mpg, you're definitely 
> >>| not supporting our great president in reducing our 
> >>| dependency on foreign oil.
> >>| 
> >>| Other reasons for considering a "down-grade":
> >>| 
> >>| Reduce traffic (which reduces urban sprawl (which reduces 
> >>| the human footprint on our overly-crowded earth)). Reduce 
> >>| pollution; I've yet to meet a person that doesn't enjoy 
> >>| breathing. Reduce taxes/tolls - more weight/bigger tires on 
> >>| the pavement requires more tax-funded resources to fix it.
> >>| 
> >>| Sorry, I know this is coming from a lurker - but I try to 
> >>| hop in when I get the time or if the topic is interesting.
> >>| 
> >>| Adam.
> >>| 
> >>| 
> >>| > -----Original Message-----
> >>| > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >>| > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:39 PM
> >>| > To: CF-Community
> >>| > Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee
> >>| > 
> >>| > 
> >>| > Has he had a problem with the shocks on the Jeep leaking oil?
> >>| > 
> >>| > I have went through 8 shocks in 40,000 miles.  All of 
> >>| them had to be
> >>| > replaced because of them leaking oil.  Just spent $300 
> >>| > somewhere else to 
> >>| > get shocks that do not leak oil (gas shocks) and I am getting 
> >>| > ready to fire 
> >>| > a letter off to Chrysler and ask for $300.
> >>| > 
> >>| > Thanks
> >>| > Jacob
> >>| > 
> >>| > At 01:32 PM 4/30/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >>| > >I have guy I work with who does, what do you want to know.
> >>| > 
> >>| > 
> >>| > 
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