I see a big difference between responding to utten bullshit and sending the dirty tricks squad after someone so I am having trouble taking Robert seriously and I don't have to time to wade into the BS and find out who really threatened who first. In my mommy voice I will just say that everyone here needs a time out.
If people really want to solve the problem they need to stop throwing emotion around. I am no fan of the Canadian system, and I've said before that I'd be dead had I lived in Canada, but on a macro scale the outcomes are better up there. It's a complex issue that requires careful thought, which is absolutely not what we are getting right now. I note that we have had Medicaid and Medicare for a lot time now, and I have yet to see any cultural revolutions. Still. I don't like the government having all that data about individuals. Meanwhile... the situation is deteriorating na danyone who thinks it is someone else's problems hasn't considered that people crippled by bad or non-existant medical care go from being revenue streams tp cost centers. that's all folks On Sat, Aug 8, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > RoMunn wrote: > > quickly as possible before it gets really ugly for them. The parallels to > > Nixon are already being drawn. Is that really an image Obama wants in the > > public's mind when he is in the middle of trying to convince them to > trust > > him on health care reform? > > > > I think it's all WAY much ado over nothing, but I gotta agree with you. > > However. The lies, half-truths, etc have gotten WAY WAY WAY out of > hand. Palin saying Obama's death board is going to euthanize Trig? > sheesh, W. T. F. > > As Judah has pointed out, I'm shill for the healthcare industry but > come on, let's have a little truth here. Frankly all of the ideas on > the table right now are reasonable, we just need to find the right > mix. > > Personally I don't think governments should provide goods and/or > services and when people tell me that as a business "healthcare it's > different" I laugh because it's not; it's a business like every other > single business which is brutally obvious to anyone willing to remove > the emotion. People, process, and technology serve customer needs at > market prices. Done. > > The fact is simple: doctor bills are higher than people can pay so > they finance them just like they finance houses, cars, and TVs. The > finance mechanism is called insurance. > > Blaming insurance for high prices is like blaming Visa for the price > of your 65" plasma. > > And that, of course, always starts the look-at-how-much-X-person makes > talk. > > Are we saying the government should decide how much the realtor makes > on clinic real estate? The electric company makes on the power the > clinic uses? The computer company makes on the clinic's PCs? The > software, the labs, the equipment, the smock manufacturers?? > > Think of the smocks, for God sakes. The smock maker has kids to feed to. > > It's the market. It's the regulated market. Treat it as a business, > regulate the market and it's fixed just like Holland, just like > Switzerland. > > Make congress do their damn job and regulate. > > The alternative is sending your money to Congress to spend wisely. > > ANYBODY that wants the government involved with ANY industry will soon > be parted from their money. > > It's the rule for all fools. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:301688 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
