It would really depend on a number of factors, the amount of water
pressure etc. There are most of these dams are fairly close to
electrical wires, so connecting to the grid isn't a problem. The water
pressure that would be needed to spin the turbines is a concern
however. During the siege of Sarajevo I read about the electrical
engineering school there had developed some low flow turbines that
basically sat in the river and used its flow to generate electricity.
I think that somethign could be easily adapted for using in a
spillway.

Regardless even something that generates enough electricity to power 3
or 4 hourse is a net gain.

On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:38 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> When we were in Ocean City, MD this summer I kept looking at the ocean
> and thinking 'Why can't we find a good/easy/cheap way to harness the
> power of the waves?' That is a nearly endless source of potential
> energy - even at low tide (or when the tide is going out) there are
> still waves.  Hell, in a storm, we could get more energy.
>
> That lead me to think of ways we could get energy from rivers without
> having to dam them up  - but this thought process got me nowhere.
>
> Larry - that is an interesting idea about using the dams from Old
> Mills. Not sure how much energy could be generated from one, but a
> bunch together may yield enough to make it worth while.
>
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:53 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I think its mostly going to be a mixture of different systems, like
>> natural gas, methane from biomass, various green power etc. One thing
>> no one has mentioned is hydro power. Greenhouse gas emissions are very
>> low, - even those 2 or 3 studies that have claimed that hydroelectric
>> dams create greenhouse gases used 2 examples of very poorly done dams
>> in Brazil.
>>
>> Years ago I used to live in a rebuilt mill from the 1840's. The water
>> was still dammed in a retaining pond, and went over a sluiceway. For
>> this sort of system it should be relatively easy to put in a turbine
>> system to generate power. Since all throughout the eastern US there
>> are old dams left over from the old milling days, it may be a good
>> alternative method of generating electricity. Even more so if the land
>> (and dam) owners have incentives to install these turbine systems.
>> That ought to go a long way towards reducing our dependence on oil and
>> reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gel wrote:
>>>> What we need are materials/organisms that create harvestable energy in
>>>> appreciable amounts direct from the Sun.
>>>>
>>>
>>> All the algae farms have gone bankrupt, but we better figure out
>>> something fast because the world's demand for energy is exponentially
>>> rising while the world's supply is exponentially falling.
>>>
>>> And the bad news is the planet's economic growth hinges on one single
>>> factor: a growing supply of energy.
>>>
>>> So one of two things is going to happen:
>>>
>>> (1.) Humans devolve into a cold dark world.
>>>
>>> (2.) A new form of energy is invented / discovered and it creates an
>>> economic boom.
>>>
>>> The problem with # 2 is that inventing / discovering new energy
>>> *takes* energy and if that energy is getting more and more scarce then
>>> you're in trouble.
>>>
>>> Which is why nuclear is so attractive.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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