do we know? I'm pretty broke, but I'd give up a latte or two.... anyone? On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think you are completely right, that Phelps and his ilk are withing their > rights, and cannot and should not be prevented by the government from > exercising their free speech. > > But, I still think a single bonk on the nose would be worth the fine. > > At the same time, I feel for this father, and can hopefully help donate to > get him out of this financial hole (unless he goes the bankruptcy route, in > which case he won't need it) > > > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:08 AM, LRS Scout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> You are a thought police advocate. >> >> 1. There is no official right to privacy. It is not contained in the >> constitution. Period. It's made up. >> >> 2. You are violating the Westboro's right to freedom of speech and >> assembly. I don't care about their religion; provided they stay off of >> private property they aren't breaking the law. I will defend to the death >> their right to do so, and will be there to counter protest them at every >> opportunity. >> >> 3. No one is stopping the family of the fallen marine from mourning in >> their own personal way, religious or otherwise. >> >> Thats the way shit works in a FREE country. >> >> I will admit, I have seen it come very close to violence. I won't admit >> some other stuff. Haha. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Eric Roberts [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 6:14 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: RE: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >> >> >> As much as I despise Reagan and the Bush family, I would also say that >> people shouldn't be allowed to protest their funerals either. The family's >> right to privacy and their freedom of (and from) the religious beliefs of >> others trumps all of that. I think it does amount to yelling fire in a >> crowded people. One of these days they are going to mess with the wrong >> people and a bunch of folks are going to get killed...probably including >> innocent bystanders. >> >> Eric >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Dana [mailto:[email protected]] >> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 5:10 PM >> To: cf-community >> Subject: Re: _Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >> d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >> >> >> mmm responsibility. >> >> But they have the right to be irresponsible and even despicable. It >> would be responsible to refrain, but... if the Nazi party can march >> through a Jewish neighborhood, if Christians can harrass distraught >> young women seeking abortions, then these wackos have a right to do >> this. It does not amount to yelling fire in a crowded theatre. Quite. >> >> The best solution I have heard so far involves a motorcycle group that >> surrounds the family with its engines gunned. And presumably >> collectively look too big and mean to rush. >> >> The thing is, when does speech become *too* out there? I can't tell >> you how many people told me I was despicable for calling George W. the >> antichrist and a tool. And yet, I submit, events have largely proved >> me right, so even speech that upsets people has value, yanno? >> >> By the way, Ronal Reagan was also a tool. But I refrained from saying >> so during his interminable funeral. >> >> On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Eric Roberts >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > It's not the right decision. What the court is saying the Westboro >> Baptist >> > Church's right's are more important that the right of a family to mourn >> in >> > peace. An individual's right is more important that the right of a >> church. >> > This is bullshit it is what it is. While they do have a right to be >> heard, >> > they also have the responsibility to do so when it is appropriate. A >> > funeral is not the appropriate place to protest with signs that have >> nothing >> > to do with this individual who served honorably in our armed forces. If >> > they ant to protest outside the pentagon, or outside the Whitehouse, then >> > that is their right. Where this court has failed is one day they are >> going >> > to cross the wrong veteran's family and someone is going to come out guns >> > blazing. While I would call it karma, that would have been very >> > preventable. >> > >> > >> > Not only do we need to put up a collection, but we also need to call for >> the >> > impeachment of this judge. >> > >> > Eric >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Timothy Heald [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 4:43 PM >> > To: cf-community >> > Subject: RE:_Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >> > d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >> > >> > >> > Its unpopular but the right decision. >> > >> > Sent from my MOTOBLUR smartphone on AT&T >> > >> > -----Original message----- >> > From: Eric Roberts <[email protected]> >> > To: cf-community <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 21:10:49 GMT+00:00 >> > Subject: RE:_Speaking_of_the_Supreme_Court:_Marine's_father_ord_ere >> > d_to_pay_court_costs_to_Westboro_Baptist_Churc >> > >> > >> > WTF? *shakes head in disgust* >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] >> > Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 3:48 PM >> > To: cf-community >> > Subject: Speaking of the Supreme Court: Marine's_father ord ered to pay >> > court costs to Westboro Baptist Churc >> > >> > >> > >> >> http://mddailyrecord.com/2010/03/29/marines-father-ordered-to-pay-court-cost >> > s-to-westboro-baptist-church/ >> > >> > Lawyers for the father of a Marine who died in Iraq and whose funeral was >> > picketed by anti-gay protesters say a court has ordered him to pay the >> > protesters' appeal costs. >> > >> > Lawyers for Albert Snyder of York, Pa., also say he is struggling to come >> up >> > with fees associated with filing a brief with the U.S. Supreme Court. >> > ... >> > >> > >> > Phelps is a tool. >> > (full disclosure - it's one of my company's papers) >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >
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