Please note I said 'quality, secular curriculum'.  The quality in
there is not just for the subject matter, but how the course materials
are laid out, teacher's supplements, etc.

It seems that if the content is what we are looking for, other things
are not good - like teachers supplements. Where as if the course
structure is what we are looking for or the teacher's supplements are
good, the subject matter is littered with religious references.

And, honestly, the only subjects I am concerned with in this is
history and science.  We use grammar books from Rod & Staff (the
publishers are Mennonites) and some of the example reading has
religious themes, but I am OK with that. I have even told my wife that
if the math book says 'Jesus has 12 apostles, if 3 of them go to the
bathroom, how many are left?' I would be OK with that. But, when it
comes to history and science, I prefer tah tGod and religion be left
out.

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:21 PM, G Money <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Then how come Scott can't find any secular curriculum....???
>
> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 12:18 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> Bullshit. It's perhaps a quarter of homeschoolers who are religious,
>> Larry. They are merely the most vocal.
>>
>> Scott, try Ambleside and if that doesn't look like your cup of tea try
>> the google term "umbrella school." Or, there is Calvert, but they are
>> pricy.
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > My sympathies. I would think that given the landscape, you'd be doing
>> > good to find anything that's not religious in the home schooling
>> > market.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:07 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> ...is finding quality, secular curriculum.
>> >>
>> >> My wife and I have been looking into homeschool programs that actually
>> >> give the children diplomas and transcripts. Unfortunately, since a
>> >> large portion of those who homeschool do so for religious reasons (we
>> >> do not, BTW), most of these programs have curricula that are heavily
>> >> religious. This has not bee a huge bone of contention with me as most
>> >> of the programs allow you to substitute a curriculum for each subject.
>> >>
>> >> Yesterday that changed. We visited the main office for one of these
>> >> programs. Up until yesterday, we were impressed with their reputation,
>> >> cost and the fact that they were fairly liberal in what you could
>> >> substitute. For grammar school children, the only subjects you could
>> >> nit substitute was English and Religion. I was cool with that.
>> >> However, we were then told that for high school you cannot substitute
>> >> English, Religion and History. I immediately went and started looking
>> >> at the High School history books. They had titles like 'Christ the
>> >> King, Lord of History' and 'Christ and the Americas'. The first book I
>> >> picked up had chapters named 'Abraham' and 'Moses' - and the 'Moses'
>> >> chapter was twice as long as each chapter devoted to 'Ancient Greece'
>> >> and 'Ancient Rome'.
>> >>
>> >> The main biology books were different volumes of a series titled
>> >> 'Exploring Creation'.
>> >>
>> >> I was disgusted with all the religious drivel that was included in
>> >> these books - and was immediately turned off to this program (We had
>> >> looked at it because of the ones with a good reputation that are
>> >> accredited, this one was Catholic)
>> >>
>> >> My wife is a devote Catholic, I am not. We have discussed raising our
>> >> children Catholic, but these references in a history book concerned
>> >> even her. I have no issues with the children learning about
>> >> Catholicism, but to have those beliefs brought into subjects like
>> >> history and science is where I draw the line.
>> >>
>> >> So, now we must continue the search for a good program, like the ones
>> >> we have looked at, but that do not cram the religion down the kids
>> >> throats in every subject.  There has got to be a happy medium
>> >> somewhere....
>> >>
>> >> </rant>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Scott Stroz
>> >> ---------------
>> >> The DOM is retarded.
>> >>
>> >> http://xkcd.com/386/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
> 

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