-----Original Message-----
From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:29 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Closing the border


On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Scott Stewart
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> 1) How do we prevent these people from coming in illegally in the first
> place. We don't build walls, there's an episode of Penn and Teller's
> Bullshit that uses the plans for the wall, and it's breached in under five
> minutes. We use technology to survey the border and turn the border patrol
> into a paramilitary rapid reaction force.

P&T are comedians and not even good at that. The walls seem to be
working elsewhere.

>>the...walls...don't...work, go find the episode, the wall section was
built to the government spec and breached in under five minutes.. it's a bad
idea with a really bad design

> 2) Secondly, we deal with the base problem, poverty in Mexico, we help
> Mexico do what it needs to do to provide a job with a decent wage for
these
> people in their own country.

You mean overthrow the government? That's the only way to stop the
corruption.

>>So we just give up and flail at the issue (which is exactly what were
doing).. Unenforcable masturbatory laws giving lip service to the
issue..won't work. 

Asking for papers.. please, just wait until the first Mexican American
citizen tells an Arizona cop to go take a long walk off a short pier.

> 3) it's impossible to round up and deport all 12 million illegals in the
US,
> so we give them a simple option, you want citizenship, join the military.

I believe we already offer that option.

>> it's a voluntary thing, but in the scenario I'm speaking of it's the only
'amnesty'.

> you're in the country illegally and you get picked up for anything..
> including a speeding ticket you're out.

Isn't that what this law does?

> The checks are done by the the
> prison system and/or the precinct office. Takes the immigration checks out
> of the hands of the cop on the street.

So it only works if you're arrested for a speeding ticket?
>>???

>If you're arrested and found to be
> illegal, the penalties are tacked on to your sentence and then you're
> deported.



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