IANAD, but I was diagnosed with sleep apnea about 6 years ago.  I used the 
machine for about 1 year before I finally got fed up with it.  I started using 
a 'bit' that would hold my lower jaw forward (I have a slight overbite).  
Anyway, that cleared up my apnea just as well as the CPAP did.  My CPAP has now 
been stored on the top shelf of my closet for 5 years.

The original bit that I got came from a dentistry outfit in Canada that sold it 
as a specialty bit for apnea.  When it got here, I realized it wasn't much 
different than a teeth grinding bit you get at the local drug store for $20.

Actually, nowadays, I don't even need to use it.  I guess my lower jaw has been 
trained to a more forward position now.


On May 11, 2010, at 8:01 PM, Dana wrote:

> 
> 133, wow. Mine was described as very severe at 55. Amazed you didn't
> drive into anything.
> 
> On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:29 PM, William Bowen <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm sorry for your brother's condition, but let me offer a
>> (admittedly-anecdotal but personal) counter-point.
>> 
>> First, I have insurance, it is very good insurance, it is very
>> expensive insurance. Everything I will speak about below is completely
>> covered by my insurance.
>> 
>> So, my wife tells me that she's been concerned for some time that I'm
>> not breathing right when I sleep. Between the loud snoring and the
>> stopping thereof, gasping for breath, etc. it's literally keeping her
>> up at night--not to mention worrying her.
>> 
>> I called my local clinic for an appointment, wait a couple weeks for
>> the schedule to clear, go see my doctor, tell her about my symptoms,
>> she recommends that I see a sleep specialist. I go with my referral to
>> the appointments desk and find that they can schedule me for a consult
>> with a sleep specialist in a month. 1st available appointment. My
>> insurance doesn't play a part in making doctors more available.
>> 
>> So I go to the appointment, describe my symptoms and my doctor says,
>> "we will schedule a sleep study as soon as possible."
>> 
>> So I go to schedule a sleep study. It's a month out, first available
>> time slot. Again, having insurance doesn't get me to the front of the
>> line... I go to my sleep study and they hook me to the machines, lots
>> of wires and whatnot.
>> 
>> My sleep study goes pretty well but I have to wait another three weeks
>> to get my results/follow-up consult. Again, insurance is no help
>> getting my results quicker.
>> 
>> At my follow-up, my doctor my doctor informs me that 5 apneas an hour
>> is considered "dangerous". My count was 133 observed apneas per hour
>> over the course of the 7.5 hour sleep study. My oxygen levels went as
>> low as 50%. I am (according to my doctor) at high risk for
>> heart-attack, stroke and possible plain-old suffocation.
>> 
>> So. I get fitted for a mask and take it home to start using it. The
>> settings are generally set, so I am getting airflow, but not optimal;
>> for that I need another sleep study and a follow-up.
>> 
>> The 2nd sleep study was performed three weeks ago. My follow-up
>> appointment at which my mask will finally be set to optimal "dosage"
>> so that treatment can actually begin is June 11. Once again, great
>> insurance doesn't help me go the the head of the line.
>> 
>> So six months later I will finally be able to begin treatment for
>> something that has been slowly killing me. This is the best on-demand
>> healthcare can do? How is the availability of and my possession of
>> insurance helping me get the treatment I need when I need it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My bro-inlaw in the UK was told he needed to be tested for kidney and
>>> prostate cancer six months ago. Three months later he got the tests,
>>> Last week he got the results. He needs surgery for both and is now
>>> going on the waiting list. He's only 50 and we're very afraid he won't
>>> make it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Eric Roberts
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> From talking to actual Canadians who use the system every day and talking 
>>>> to
>>>> actual Brits, and talking people who live in a few other countries where
>>>> they have socialized medicine...while it may not be perfect (what system
>>>> is?)...it is far better than what we have now in the US. When you have no
>>>> more barriers to getting preventive care, you detect issues earlier, which
>>>> also means, in most cases, it's also a lot cheaper to treat and it also
>>>> reduces the amounts of people going to ER's for issues that should be
>>>> getting retaken care of in the doctors offices.  Plus, with a single system
>>>> of payment, it removes the layers and layers of complexity that doc's
>>>> offices have to deal with for payment.  There are a lot of cost reductions
>>>> in socialized medicine that do offset a lot of the increases in costs that
>>>> the government picks up by sponsoring health care.
>>>> 
>>>> I think the biggest deception in this whole issue is that opponents of
>>>> healthcare have convinced the teabaggers that there is a difference between
>>>> paying a premium to them and paying your premiums via taxes.  The only
>>>> difference there is who is getting paid.  So if you taxes go up and you no
>>>> longer have to pay an insurance premium (in the case of single payer), 
>>>> there
>>>> really is no logical difference in what is happening with your money.  With
>>>> single payer, there is a good possibility that because this would be spread
>>>> out amongst a much larger pool of people, that what you are paying may be
>>>> considerably less.  So meanwhile the dumbass teabaggers, who have been 
>>>> duped
>>>> into bitching about resultant tax hikes form this, keep screaming about
>>>> taxes, the insurance company is laughing at their rubes all the way to the
>>>> bank.
>>>> 
>>>> Personally...I would rather pay the government and know that I can get
>>>> treatment without going bankrupt than deal with the insurance companies and
>>>> hospitals, knowing tat I will have to declare bankruptcy to deal with all 
>>>> my
>>>> medical bills since I don't have access to insurance(which is something I 
>>>> am
>>>> facing right no
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
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