No, you missed the part where the authorities decided to not accept the
papers (CDL drivers license) of a citizen, and detained him until someone
showed up with further papers (birth certificate). This was a natural-born
citizen that was detained even though he had legal ID, because the
authorities "thought" it wasn't his ID.

This isn't speculation. This happened. This was ICE employees; abuse at a
lower level of law enforcement is just going to be that much worse.

I don't know anyone that carried their birth certificate on them, but if
this is what's to come, we're all going to have to. And that's the problem.

On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Ah, maybe you missed the part that comes after: "I don't have papers."
>
> They call in the OBGYN or whatever Larry trained for.
>
>
> On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:01 PM, morgan l <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > The open-ended potential for abuse, that's what. A natural-born citizen
> that
> > is "suspected" of being illegal can be detained until proof that they are
> a
> > citizen is produced. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? This
> is
> > guilty until proven innocent. Plain and simple.
> >
>
> 

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