-----Original Message----- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:02 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Tea Party thinks Businesses should be allowed to deny service to blacks.
And here is where I lose my righteous sureness. (Which does not happen often) Where does a person end and a corporation begin? ****a corporation is not a person...you cannot put a corp in jail, they cannot cast a ballot, they cannot run for office and they cannot serve in the military... Is any commercial transaction inherently corporatist? **Not really...corporations can act for the good of the people and still profit. Can a one-man sandwich cart deny service based on race? **no Can a one-man plumber? **no Can he deny service to his ex-wife's new boyfriend? **Yes...they are excluding an individual, not a class of people. Can he deny service to the man who he believes is a child molester? **I would say no...unless this was in an area with a lot of kids...then there is legal basis for that. Can he deny service to the man who was convicted of molesting the plumber's kid? Can a pharmacist refuse to fill a prescription? ***No...violation of their oath Can a doctor refuse to treat Democrats? **Again...violation of their oath Who can legitimately shout "No Soup For You!"? **Only the soup Nazi I don't get the same answers in my head each time I ask these questions of myself. But for me it usually comes down to "Was I personally sinned against" when making the decision if I could justify it. **Doesn't matter...if one person's rights have been violated, then all of our rights have been violated. On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 6:50 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote: > > A question for you: is it an individual's right to be racist? Do > people have a right to hold odious opinions? I would say that, yes, > they do. I will shun them and be disgusted by them, but I believe that > individuals have a right to hold opinions with which I stridently > disagree. > > Now, Rand Paul seems to believe that a corporation (a non-person) has > a right to not only hold a racist opinion, to the extent that a > non-corporeal entity can hold an opinion, but also to act upon it in > the form of refusing to do business with a person of a given race. I > believe that corporations do not have the same rights as individuals > and I believe that refusing to serve individuals goes beyond opinions > to actions as well. > > Hence I disagree with Rand Paul stridently but I don't think it is > necessarily because he, himself, is a racist (though he may be, I > don't know) but rather because I disagree with the tenants of his > philosophy. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:319362 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
