While I do see blood, I do not see stab wounds...so that is a big leap on that Scott.
Standing up for what is right and just is common sense Scott, that is why many of us who did serve put our lives on the line and were willing to put ourselves in harms way. At some point, people have to stand up and say enough is enough. That is the mission of the Free Gaza movement and the reason they did what they did to help bring light to this illegal blockade. -----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, June 07, 2010 8:39 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Did Reuters Crop a Photo to Remove a Peace Activist's Weapon? I think it shows that neither side is innocent of propaganda. Yea, its perfectly legal to have a knife in international waters, but to me, it seems kind fo strange to have it in your hand while your buddies are holding down a soldier who appears to have wounds that may have been caused by a knife. Michael has posted in this particular thread that he does not support what Israel did with the audio. My take on all of this: no one was innocent. They all played a role in what happened by their actions or inactions. Some more than others, but they all share in the blame. Do I think the Israeli forces were out of line? It appears so, but that is based on my views as a civilian who has no military training whatsoever. Do I think those who were part of the flotilla were stupid for doing what they did? Yes, and that is based on me having a shred of common sense - something they were seriously lacking. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote: > > I tend to think the whole point of this thread is pretty disingenuous. Are > you trying to defend Israel's actions, discredit Reuters or discredit > the flotilla passengers? To me it seems a bit like you're trying to say > "see, they had weapons AND Reuters cropped a photo so the attack was > justified and editing audio is ok since they did it too." > > Reuters is not affiliated with the flotilla activists so the comparison > seems a little misaligned. Further, so what if a flotilla passenger has a > knife? They were on their own ship in international waters. Having what > looks to be between a 4 and 6 inch bladed knife isn't an offense is it? It > does nothing to justify either Israel's attack or manipulation of the audio. > > Smokescreeeeeeeeeeeeen > > On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 8:39 AM, Michael Dinowitz <[email protected] >> wrote: > >> >> > The knife looks like a little fish knife. >> Doesn't look so small to me, but I guess the person holding it was >> eating dinner right before stomping the soldier and just forgot he had >> it in his hand. >> >> > And I don't know that Reuters is in the business of >> > splashing big bloody photos everywhere. >> No, they're in the business of news and should be in the business of >> truth. Doctoring pictures is a crime against their readers. Other >> papers didn't seem to have a problem with the undoctored photo. The >> Turkish papers even lauded it. >> >> > It also doesn't indicate that the knife was used, or whether it was >> picked >> > up from the deck, or whether they disarmed the soldier trying to stab >> them. >> You're right. He was just holding it to clean his nails. >> >> > In comparison though, the actions of Israel were a direct attempt to >> mislead >> > the public and doctor recordings to make >> > it seem that the people aboard the ship were terrorists. >> Yep. No disagreement there. Israel sucks when it comes to media >> presentation, especially media manipulation. They would be better at >> pure, raw truth but they're afraid of showing things due to >> 'security'. They have yet to come into the battleground of the new >> world. >> >> > Reuters should have shown the knife though, so that people can see that >> what >> > was onboard the ship were common knives and other implements and >> > nothing that was specially designed for combat. >> I saw the knives they collected. Some of them were not for cutting >> bread. I saw the bulletproof vests and night vision equipment. If >> these were peaceful activists, then I'd hate to see what Turkish >> soldiers are like. And I still have not seen clear evidence that any >> of the people involved in the combat were soldiers, mercenaries, >> experienced terrorists, or the like. >> But it still makes me wonder why each of them were carrying envelopes >> of so much cash. >> >> The story is far from over. >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:320461 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
