Is there a reason why existing football stadiums do not fit the bill?
As I stated earlier,I used to see the Cosmos all the time at Giants
Stadium and when the World Cup was in the US back in the mid-90's all
the games were played in stadiums where football is the main draw.


On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:44 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> It is expensive, which is the whole "major league" bit. If you want to
> be taken seriously as a pro sport, you have to act like one and treat
> fans appropriately. That means a good stadium, a good crowd
> experience, good teams to play against.  The Timbers owner paid a $40
> million franchise fee to get into the MLS and then has shared costs in
> renovating the stadium. There was the usual debate back and forth
> about whether using city funds to help subsidize this franchise is a
> good idea or not, especially since we aren't quite done paying for the
> last stadium renovation. I have mixed feelings on the subject as a tax
> payer and soccer fan but overall I thought it was fairly responsibly
> done. Portland is also the biggest city in the country with only a
> single pro sports franchise (NBA), so that factored into the decision
> some.
>
> Judah
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Seems like a costly requirement. Even a small 18,000 seat stadium has
>> got to be pretty ass-pensive to build.
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 4:24 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> All new MLS teams are required to have soccer specific stadiums as
>>> part of the franchise process and existing teams have all been
>>> upgrading. One of the things they found as costly mistakes in the
>>> early years was that stadiums not designed for soccer just kind of
>>> produced a lousy experience. They weren't the right shape, they had
>>> too many or too few seats, it just wasn't conducive to enjoying a
>>> match and consequently, the teams suffered. When teams started
>>> building stadiums that we designed for the sport, they found that fans
>>> enjoyed it and showed up. A bright light went off over organizers
>>> heads and that became a big point for the MLS. I think that Columbus
>>> might have been the first MLS soccer-specific stadium, but I don't
>>> recall for sure.
>>>
>>> In the case of Portland, we're renovating and redesigning an existing
>>> facility (PGE Park) and evicting the AAA baseball team. There were
>>> plans for the AAA team to play elsewhere in town but that has been
>>> caught with some hangups, so their future is uncertain at the moment.
>>> The park is pretty old but the upside to that is that it is centrally
>>> located, right downtown, so it's got great lightrail service right to
>>> the stadium. They are planning on reworking the field layout and add
>>> in something like 6,000 more seats. Last I recall, I think they had
>>> decided on a regular capacity of about 18,000 and a special game
>>> capacity of about 22,000.
>>>
>>> Judah
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I'm pretty sure BMO field is used exclusively for TFC games.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 3:28 PM, G Money <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I guess that Portland is just really a soccer city. We average almost
>>>>> > 10,000 per game for our USL team. The Timbers are moving up to the MLS
>>>>> > next year and I suspect that they'll be able to sell out the 20,000
>>>>> > seats on a regular basis.
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>> Kansas City is building a soccer-only stadium to house our MLS KC Wizards.
>>>>> It's my understanding that they will be the only MLS team to have their 
>>>>> own
>>>>> facility...I think....??? (Unless Portland's arena is soccer-only).
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't really know if KC is a soccer city or not, but we support the
>>>>> Wizards pretty well, and on any given summer evening, our parks are
>>>>> littered
>>>>> with organized pick-up soccer games.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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