1-14 years? That seems to be a pretty big disparity for some kids compared to another. A lot of shit (good and bad) can happen to a person in 14 years. How can those numbers even be remotely accurate?.
On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> wrote: > > No its simply a fact, not an excuse. For instance take the NORC > dataset (see http://www.norc.org/homepage.htm) - this data is the > result of a 20 year longitudinal study of all the children in the > Chicago region school systems, including urban, suburban and rural > systems. The children were followed throughout their school career. In > the end over 50,000 children were followed for about 1 to 14 years. > Not only was school achievement assess, but socioeconomic status, > parental involvement, etc. > > The shared variance (or r squared value) between race and economic > status was over 40%, meaning that the two factors (race and SES) were > strongly related. To such an extent that you cannot statistically > remove the effect of poverty from ethnicity effects nor can you > eliminate the effects of race on effects due to socio-economic status. > > Similar results are found in the census data and in other very large > datasets. Its not saying that one group is better than the other, its > saying that this strong relationship exists and has to be taken into > account in any statistical model you create. > > On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:31 PM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> "Race and poverty are real close. Real close. Really really close. So close >> together that its really really really difficult to remove the effects of >> one from the other." >> >> >> One of the most racist ideas I have heard or read. It's that sentiment that >> gives people an excuse for failure. I can't succeed because my skin color >> is [fill in the blank]. >> >> >> >> J >> >> - >> >> No greater injury can be done to any youth than to let him feel that because >> he belongs to this or that race he will be advanced in life regardless of >> his own merits or efforts. - Booker T. Washington >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:323298 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
