Math models are all fun and that, but I'll wait until the empirical data are in.

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:48 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Well, I thought I had explained it pretty well, but here goes in a
> more succinct fashion:
>
> A new mathematical analysis by E.O. Wilson and two colleagues
> indicates that kin selection is not required to produce observed
> behavior.
>
> Now, since the theory of kin selection was posited by E.O. Wilson and
> he is not saying something is impossible but rather that the theory is
> unnecessary, I'd tend to give it a fair bit of weight. We'll see what
> the counter arguments from other folks end up being.
>
> Judah
>
> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:09 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Old issue. It doesn't matter if Wilson agrees or disagrees with
>> kin-selection. Does the current theory adequately explain the data or
>> does his new view provides a more thorough explanation. This case
>> reminds me of Clarke's first law:
>>
>> When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is
>> possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something
>> is impossible, he is probably wrong.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:22 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I haven't had the time yet to go through the underlying papers but
>>> E.O. Wilson founded the discipline of Sociobiology and has serious
>>> cred. One of the big things that Sociobiology brought about was the
>>> notion of kin selection, that is that closely related organisms may
>>> behave altruistically to benefit their relatives because their
>>> relatives are likely to carry a large portion of the same genes that
>>> the altruistic individual has. Wilson now seems to claim that kin
>>> selection is not necessary as a theory and that altruistic behavior
>>> can be explained with standard natural selection.
>>>
>>> Big stuff if you're into evolutionary biology.
>>>
>>> http://ksjtracker.mit.edu/2010/08/26/e-o-wilson-says-a-key-theory-underlying-sociobiology-is-wrong-2/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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