"Communism intentionally kills people?" Den, I didn't say that. In fact, later on, I say communism doesn't kill people. I said it seems to lend itself to leaders who commit mass exterminations on a scale never seen before in mankind.
National Socialist Hitler's genocide of 6 million Jews, Stalin's forced starvation of 6 to 7 million Ukrainians. Stalin's great purge of the communist party which killed between 700k and 1.5 million. Che's hand in killing over 10,000 dissidents in Cuba in the 1960's. Mao's Great Leap forward which killed 20+ million people Khmer Rouge killing 2 million in 4 years. I used conservative numbers for some of these and left out some numbers. For Stalin, the low end of all his solutions was 20 millions. The high end is 50+. Remember that Stalin's solution to disagreement was 7 grams of lead. Mao is credited with 50+ million at the high end. "Offing folk 'cause they be different is an old, old idea. Probably rooted in evolution." I won't deny that it has happened in all era's under all types of government. It has been taken to a new level under the socialist/communist banner. "Again, nothing special about communism. Saying communism is responsible is like saying 'that can't happen here', and let me be the first to tell you: It can." Ahh, but there is something special about socialism and communism. The number of atrocities committed under socialist/communist government dwarfs the number of other atrocities committed in the 20th century. Check this site out: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/warstat1.htm "There were Native American tribes that were pretty close to communist." Some where. They seemed to have it down better than modern governments. " The Nazis -- poster-child for ethnic cleansing/genocide -- were what again?" The National Socialist. "You're honestly trying to say that communism is 'special'?" Yes. Special in a bad way. "And FWIW, Communism is to Conservative, as Socialism is to Liberal. ;)p" Den, I could follow you up to this point. You've gone off the reservation here. "Maybe consolidating power leads to easy killing? Bah. I hold ourselves accountable." Now, you're back. Yes. Consolidating power can lead to easy killing. When a select few hold the reigns, they can do whatever they want unchecked. In the socialistic/communist governments of the 20th century, that's what was always present. A small council controlling the whole population. I don't hold ourselves accountable because we weren't on the committees making the decisions. J - No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. - Mark Twain The artificial aristocracy is a mischievous ingredient in government, and provisions should be made to prevent its ascendancy. - Thomas Jefferson ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:326227 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
