That's pretty irrelevant to the discussion at hand Larry. As I keep pointing out, reenacting a unit doesn't mean that you support what they did. Personally I don't see anything to defend in doing reenactments of any unit throughout history.
If you can show some sort of evidence that he's a Nazi (which a couple people have done for you) that's be one thing (and I won't be defending him against that), but all you're saying is that he's a history buff who's interested in a particularly brutal unit. Interest does not equate support. What you've been doing is pretty much the same as the people who point at Obama and scream that he must be a Muslim because he spent some time overseas as a child. -----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 3:51 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Candidate responds to charge he dressed as Nazi - CNN Political Ticker - C Read the history of the 5th Panzer SS. They were not just soldiers. Her's what the Wikipedia article says about them: -- Members of the division's bakery column, led by Obersturmführer Braunnagel and Untersturmführer Kochalty, assisted Einsatzgruppe A in rounding up Ukrainian Jews. Witnesses report that the Jewish victims were forced to run a gauntlet formed by soldiers who would beat them as they passed, and when they reached the end of the gauntlet, Einsatzgruppen officers murdered them and their bodies were pushed into a bomb crater. The German 1st Mountain Division is also suspected of being implicated. Between 50 and 60 Jews were killed in this manner, as a part of the larger Einsatzgruppe operation which resulted in over 700 murders[8] In addition historian Eleonore Lappin from the Institute for the History of Jews in Austria has documented several cases of war crimes committed by members of the 5 SS Division Wiking in her work The Death Marches of Hungarian Jews Through Austria in the Spring of 1945.[9] On March 28, 1945, eighty Jews from evacuation column, though fit for the journey, were shot by three members of the Waffen SS division Wiking and five military policemen. On April 4, twenty members of another column that left Graz tried to escape near Eggenfeld, not far from Gratkorn. Soldiers from the 5 SS Division Wiking that were temporarily stationed there apprehended them in the forest near Mt. Eggenfeld and then herded them in a gully, where they were shot. On April 7 and 11, 1945 members of the division executed another eighteen escaped prisoners. -- They were not simply young and healthy Aryan boys to say the least. Also if you read up on the recruiting practices of the SS, there was far more references to protecting the fatherland from the jew and the capitalist, and far less about the evil Bolshevik. Are you trying to give him a break since he's a republican and a tea party supporter? Would you have the same reaction and defend him as strongly if he were running for the democratic party? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:329064 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
