=) I started with a Apple IIe, I think. We had an Atarii with floppy drives, too.
But the most fun was the 8088s built by hand, a heathkit microwave (also built by hand), etc.... put a lot of store in things you could "get in there and dick with", I guess. Color me biased-- The Tandy-ish stuff suckethed, so to speak. Why pay more for the same damn part, just because it was wrapped in a funkily shaped piece of plastic? (like the volkswagen/porshe parts deal, sorta) I've helped run PC and Apple labs for the last 12 years or so. ~15 computers per lab, 10 to 14 labs. Sure the PC stuff failed more often, but it was *so* much cheaper, I think the TCO was still in favor of the PC. I mean, if the TCO was really *that* much better on the Apple side, you'd see a lot more of them in the corporate and university sectors, neh? Especially corporate, as they're the heads that came up with "TCO"! That just isn't the case. Even the deals Apple gave educational institutions wasn't enough to give it the "de facto" stamp. Good penetration, but not complete... But data, like all things (including anecdotes), is(are?) open to interpretation. =)p So who really knows. MBPs are fine machines. Are they "worth it", though? That's probably one of those "it depends" type deals (what isn't?). I've personally recommended them to folks in the past... I try not to let my personal feelings get in the way of what's best for the individual, IMHO. I do know that I don't like the current Apple philosophy. But again, I'm not a fan of closed source, "must be an official reseller, must be an official repair person, etc." type thingie-ma-boppers. "Freedom!", yadda yadda. I *really* think it's important. All in all though, I try not to "hate on" much. Apple is free to do as it chooses, and so are consumers. I wouldn't want it any other way. :Den -- We should consider every day lost on which we have not danced at least once. And we should call every truth false which was not accompanied by at least one laugh. Friedrich Nietzsche On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: > > I've had a mac or a pc since the Mac Plus. In grad school I supported > myself by being the computer lab person, supporting an all mac, an all > pc and and all mixed network. So what I have found through my own > experience is that Macs tend to be the far more reliable machines. And > when something went wrong with them, support was much better than for > Dell, HP or Gateway. As for programs, there are either the same > applications or the functional equivalents on the Mac. If I have to > run a windows program, I just use VMWare Fusion. Remember I have an > elderly MacBook right now, so it doesn't run MS Windows 2008 Server > and SQL Server 2008 all that fast, but it does run it. On a more > modern MacBook Pro, its very fast. > > That said running Apache, JBoss, CF/OpenBlueDragon/Railo and MySQL on > this older macbook still is very fast. And its a nice dev platform > still. > > larry > > On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 4:21 PM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Larry C. Lyons wrote: >>> >>> strange my 4 year old MacBook hasn't needed any repair work. The one >>> before that was in twice. Both times at Apple's expense. The iMac >>> before that one again never needed any repair work. >>> >>> that said, the plural of anecdote is not data. >> >> Heh. Take a stroll through the apple care site sometime, eh? >> >> Fer reals, some of those threads are *thousands* of posts long, and >> then Apple likes to go and do some pretty underhanded stuff, like just >> deleting them and whatnot. >> >> I had both the wireless cutting out (only rebooting fixed it), and the >> lines on the screen problem. Those two alone have struck many, many >> people. >> >> Apple hardware isn't as magical as their P.R.. The "cover ups" do >> stick in my craw tho. That's lame. >> >> :Den >> >> -- >> Today I love myself as I love my god: who could charge me with a sin >> today? I know only sins against my god; but who knows my god? >> Friedrich Nietzsch >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:329692 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
