McDonalds isn't there enforcing the behavior with a gun pointing at you. The govt does. Big difference.
Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:14 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: The Happy Meal Nazi: No Toys for You!!!!!!! Maybe you miss my point. You object to the rather open desire to limit unhealthy items by a government. But you have no objections to such individual manipulation by a corporation. When if done by a government you'd be spitting fire. What's the difference here. Is it OK for corporations to engage in this sort of control but not government? What's the critical factor that makes it OK if done by a company but not by a government? On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 11:14 AM, G Money <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> You have to admit the toys are a real nice bit of conditioning on the >> part of McDonalds. >> >> What I don't understand is that when people have tantrums over this >> sort of thing, but have absolutely no qualms about letting private >> corporations do the same to them. >> >> For instance, Kid really wants the toy. Through advertising etc the >> kid is convinced they must have it (all their friends got one etc). >> So he nags the parents until they relent. Then McDonalds for the cost >> of some advertising and cheap plastic gets 4 or 5 sales out of it. In >> addition to the positive reinforcer of the toy, the kid gets a sugar >> rush (positive hedonic reinforcer) from the soft drink and the carbs >> in the food, so he's more likely to want to come back again. >> >> So you have no problem with this sort of conditioning, but you do >> have a problem with the local government wanting to limit the >> consumption of flavoured sugar water and useless carbohydrates in a >> very open manner, unlike what McDonald's does. >> > > I know you are aren't directing this at me, but in a word: Yes. > > Are we, or are we not, a FREE country? > > There is nothing subversive about what Micky D's is doing. They server > junk food. We KNOW they serve junk food. it is up to us whether we > want to eat that junk for or not. Micky D's is in the business of > getting us to eat as much junk food as they can. > > We ALWAYS have the choice not to eat there. > > Give me freedom any day over this nanny state crap. > > >> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 6:39 AM, Jerry Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Law curbs McDonald's Happy Meal >> > toys<http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101103/us_nm/us_mcdonalds_toys> >> > >> > >> > Excerpt: >> > >> > San Francisco has become the first major U.S. city to pass a law >> > that >> cracks >> > down on the popular practice of giving away free toys with >> > unhealthy restaurant meals for children. >> > >> > >> > Heaven forbid that you just tell your kid no. They'll just make >> > the decision for you. >> > >> > >> > J >> > >> > - >> > >> > "Nutrition is not a private matter!" - Hitler Youth Manual >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:331084 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
